(October 10, 2013 at 2:57 pm)Heir Apparent Wrote:(October 10, 2013 at 6:44 am)Brakeman Wrote: Why should the first amendment protect the right to lie and mislead the public? Simply forcing them to be factual and non-fraudulent would dry up their support. I don't see the issue. Simply put, you should have the right to be stupid all you want, and tell people about your stupidity all you want too, but you are refrained from making known un-factual statements.
Nazi extremist - Got mit uns, very strong (at least internal) Christian support.
KKK - very strong christian support
Al-Qaeda - very strong muslim support
That's a pretty good correlation to me. If any of the groups had been irreligious, they would be unknown to us, without support.
Why do you assume everyone has to listen to the lies and untruths? If one group can say what they like without fear of being arrested, any group should. I don't oppose the KKK holding demonstrations. Am I going to attend one? No, I don't agree with their message.
If you lived in Poland and wanted to hold a rally for atheism, there is a high chance you'd be arrested for blaspheming. Do you think that's fair?
Edit - you didn't get my point either. You appear to be comparing Sikh and Jewish traditional religious garb to Neo Nazi and KKK uniforms. That doesn't make sense.
I didn't comment on Sikh or Jewish Garbs, but nonetheless if those groups make their money and gang-like social pressure by lying and committing fraud upon the populace, their outside symbols should be banned, if any are. We ban gang symbols and clothing in our schools and in some American cities (I think), should these gang members not have their rights to proclaim their allegiances in the same way as the jews? Why would a municipality want to ban gang symbols? I would think it is to decrease the intimidation factor where one can feel compelled to join because of the number surrounding you. Do you not feel that christian groups use their strong social pressure to intimidate your children? Are my children free to live in a land free from the gang-like tactics of christians?
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