(May 11, 2011 at 12:24 pm)Godschild Wrote:(May 11, 2011 at 12:18 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: A bunch of lame claims of prophecy and biblical accuracy. "They shall look upon him whom they have pierced" does not necessarily describe a crucifixion. Sounds more like someone being stabbed.
And what about all of Jesus' failed prophecies of the end of the world and returning in his listeners' lifetimes? What about the fact that the messiah was supposed to be a military leader with an earthly kingdom, which Jesus never was? What about "he shall be called Immanuel" which Jesus never was in the New Testament?
Prove your statements.
Matthew 16:28 - Luke 9:27 - Mark 9:1 all say that there will be some who will not die before they SEE the kingdom of god in its power. THERE is not a single person from that time alive - NONE - and there has never been another coming of the christ - if there ever was a first one.
Isiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.
THERE is not a place in the bible where the christ is referred to in that manner. WE have NO proof he ever lived as well.
The Bible says that he will:
A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world—on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9). The Messiah must be descended on his father’s side from King David (see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1). The Messiah will lead the Jewish people to full Torah observance. The Torah states that all mitzvot (commandments) remain binding forever, and anyone coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4)
The historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled none of these messianic prophecies.
In fact - the Temple of Jerusalem had not yet been destroyed the second time - at the supposed time of the christ - who therefore based on the bible could NOT actually have been the messiah
Of course - the big problem is that the prophecy that the Messiah was to be HUMAN - and will unite the entire world under the jewish religion - points to the problem with xtianity - which is NOT the jewish religion.