(October 23, 2013 at 12:22 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote:(October 23, 2013 at 12:08 pm)Godschild Wrote: Are you the one who will accuse Him, you do understand that He is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, right. So who are you to question God who has the right to do as He pleases. You see it doesn't matter what you believe He is, it only matters that God proves who He is, that will happen at the judgment of each and every person.How ominous of you to presume. Let me make up one of my own for you...
GC
"Are you the one who will accuse Zamcar the Great, you do understand that He is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, right? So who are you to question Zamcar the Great who has the right to do as He pleases? You see it doesn't matter what you believe He is, it only matters that Zamcar the Great proves who He is, that will happen at the judgment of each and every person."
See how that looks? "He will prove, blah blah blah", but you gotta die first to see him. Would you die for Zamcar the Great GC? No? Now you know how I feel about your fictional "God" character.
I know God, I have no doubts He is real, why, because He has proven Himself to me, it's a process of faith, belief and then knowledge. Like any relationship it takes time and effort, kinda' like a successful marriage. There's a problem with Zamcar, he's never proven to me he's real. Also God has proven to me He's real and said there are no other gods. This is how I can eliminate all other gods.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.