RE: Christians, what is your VERY BEST arguments for the existence of God?
January 28, 2010 at 3:29 pm
(January 28, 2010 at 8:42 am)Tiberius Wrote: Oh yes, and I'd like to see some evidence for this "free will" you speak of. If we are organisms, there is no explanation for "free will", merely the illusion of free will. Currently, the scientific evidence points away from its existence.
Please correct me if I am wrong, Adrian:
Your position is that free will is merely an illusion, i.e., we do not have free will.
It would then seem to follow from this:
1) that the only reason why you debate or discuss anything with anybody else is because you are compelled to based on your genetics, environment, etc.;
2) you have no reason to believe that anything you say could convince someone that you are "correct" in any position you take because the person you are talking to is compelled to think what they think also (unless of course you are compelled to believe such a thing);
3) there is no such thing as "correct", "right", "true", "correct application of logic" etc., it is only what a person is compelled to perceive/think; and
4) in reality, scientists are compelled to think free will doesn't exist regardless of what evidence they look at.
I guess that would mean there is no real point to any communication and it certainly diminishes (to zero)the weight of any argument put forth here on this forum.
I, for one, am glad we don't live like there is no free will. It would make a boring world (or maybe I am just compelled to think this).
My comments above were a bit "tongue in cheek" (I suspect I am missing some things regarding your point of view that would make my conclusions above not really apply). So my serious question, Adrian, is could you please elaborate on what you mean and how it works from your point of view?
