Computer Scientists "prove" God exists

[Godscreated]

He does, I've already explained that.

Which means that you're contradicting yourself, as I said. Faith in God's existence doesn't give you knowledge of God's existence: only God can do that if he exists. I agree.

Your skill at comprehension lacks much, I've never said faith gives knowledge. What I have continually said without deviation, is that by faith God leads us to belief and through belief He leads us to knowledge. So you see your only adopting what I've already made plain, please try and read more carefully in the future.

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God has revealed Himself to all in some way, I'm not privy to how He does this, nor do I need to be. I've never said He hasn't as you are suggesting everyone will have God revealed to them at some point in their lives. God has not fail, those who reject Him are exercising their choice within their free will, God will force no one to choose Him.

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So in other words, you say God has revealed himself to EVERYONE in some way that you yourself admit you don't know how, yet you still assert it as true, knowingly without evidence? THAT is what dishonesty is. And to say that God has revealed himself to everyone in some way, and yet there are people who don't realize that (ex: me) is just a demonstration of what I said before: If God exists he's either impotent, incompetent or both.

Why should I be privy to all God does? I know God and in God's word He says He makes it apparent to all He exist, this is through nature. His word also says God does not lie. So knowing God exists and that His word is truth I have no reason to doubt.

I do not have to, God does that for everyone, it's not His responsibility to force one into a decision.

So something you cannot evidence the existence of and do not know the operations of does things that you don't know of, yet you know it exists and does certain things?

Some deity you've got there.

I know quite a bit about what God does, just not how He chooses to personally interact with others unless they share it. I do not have to evidence God's existence to you or anyone else, that's God's work, I testify what He has done for me. I have the One and only God and He is very special, to bad you rejected Him before you found out who He is.

You haven't sought Him out have you? Of coarse you would say He exist when you have absolute proof, only an idiot wouldn't. That's why I said at the judgement everyone will bend on knee and bow their head and call God the LORD of all.

As a former fundamentalist, "born-again" Christian, to say I haven't 'sought out God' is quite hilarious and blatantly false. And now that you admit that I would in fact accept that God exists if there were powerful evidence for it, I hereby request that you retract your claim that I'm simply denying he exists because it would ruin my life.

You were being dishonest and drawing me into answering a question without knowledge of your Christian experiment. You like to be dishonest, now I see why you decided to leave, church was cramping your life style. Word games I see, I said as you did, absolute proof. I will not retract what I said, what I see from you, my statement is true.

Further, your second point that God will demonstrate his existence and supremacy on Judgement Day is a demonstration that God could reveal himself everyone such that they would accept he exists, yet chooses not to. Hence, he allows them to go to Hell by not doing so.

Now you're being most dishonest, I never said God would reveal His existence at judgement, that's what you keep harping. God will show His supremacy at judgement. God reveals Himself so that everyone can understand He exists, and they have the choice to make.

You haven't sought out God for a reason, could it be that if you were to find Him you would have to give up the life you're so happy with for one you seem to deny as worth to live.

There is nothing in life so precious to me that evidence that I would choose it and accept infinite torture over.

Apparently there is, to reject Christ is to choose eternal punishment. God does not torture and you can not prove it through scripture.

Actually, I think the threat itself would be one of the only things that would make me hesitate. "Accept me as lord and savior or, in my infinite benevolence and justice, I will torture you for eternity!"

Again, some god you've (supposedly) got.

What threat, it's a choice, thus eliminating what you refer to as a threat. I'm thinking that's why you got into church to start with, you did not and probably never cared to experience God's awesome love, it's certainly to bad you missed what God wanted to give you the most. I have a wonderful God who is love.

Yes, that's what I said and have presented nothing to indicate differently.

Good, I'm clarifying to demonstrate the incoherence of your position.

No, I believe everyone can make decisions due to the facts at hand, spiritually or physically. I've changed greatly over my life and foresee changing in the future.

Er, you just agreed with me. To say that people can choose based on the "facts at hand" just means they analyze a given set of facts (reason) based on the way they've built up said ability to reason (background information).

No, you're wrong I said I can and have change my life by changing what I previously believed to be relevant.

I try and deal with life as honestly as possible.

GC

Until you've been shown not to have been entirely honest, or at least a history of misunderstanding posts.

I've not been dishonest with you or others on this forum, you're perceiving only what you want to see, just like you did with God.
We are going around in circles and getting nowhere, mainly because you are trying to twist what I say into something you want to believe, so I suggest we agree to disagree and go on to other things.