RE: one thing i don't understand bout god/christianity
November 3, 2013 at 3:34 am
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2013 at 3:42 am by GodsRevolt.)
(November 2, 2013 at 10:26 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Assumes existence of a god? I think evil pretty much makes the existence of a good god impossible, but your god bitchslaps people, so yes we can make allowances for the sake of argument.
But no you cannot bring up heaven because heaven is christianity's way of opting out of all responsibilities here on earth. God's and their own. Almost every religion has something like that, buddhism believes in karma that happens in this lifetime, and also those that happen in the next life, so they don't have to account for all the times they fail to karma people. So yes, it is a complete cop out by invoking something that you cannot proof and no one can ever proof and saying that because it exists it justifies suffering.
Oh, excuse me, you can bring it up if you want to, I'm just letting you know I'm not going to take that kind of argument seriously.
If the question addresses the Christian stance on a certain subject (and the problem of evil is a very important one when it comes to Christianity and needs to be addressed) the using parts of Christianity to address that question only makes sense.
If someone asks what Christians have to say about subject A then you have to allow the Christian to talk about subject A from a Christian point of view, which would involve Christian ideas.
Now, if you cannot entertain a thought that is outside of your world-view it would be a lot easier for you not to enter the conversation in the first place.
(November 2, 2013 at 5:17 pm)Ryantology Wrote: There is only suffering because God made suffering possible, and he would only do that if he enjoys suffering, because there is no such thing as necessity for an omnipotent and omniscient being.
This makes a lot of assumptions about something that is, by definition, outside of our understanding. I mean, do you know what it is like to be omniscient or omnipotent?
Motive is difficult to understand even in our own lives. How can you expect an omnipotent being's motives be summed up in one post on an internet forum?
". . . let the atheists themselves choose a god. They will find only one divinity who ever uttered their isolation; only one religion in which God seemed for an instant to be an atheist." -G. K. Chesterton