(November 8, 2013 at 12:30 am)FallentoReason Wrote:(November 8, 2013 at 12:21 am)whateverist Wrote: I guess what I'd like to know is why, if no evidence is to be found out there, how come they presume this "consciousness .. which wants to connect with you personally" is out there.
That's for the theist to answer.
Quote: Just as the underpinnings of consciousness are to be found in the brain, so too will this "greater consciousness".
This comparison suggests that the universe is in fact the brain of God. I don't think that's what you meant to say..?
Quote: If it isn't supported in our brains then it has no place in this universe at all. Why turn down such a location for gods? Maybe you gods are in here. Consciousness is not unitary. There is plenty of room for your gods right on board that noggin of yours. You know, I and I.
Oh wait, are you saying God should be able to be found in our consciousness??? Consciousness is not unitary??? Are you a schizophrenic by any chance?
Ah, I see. Yeah, I think the honest answer that both parties should adopt is that there is no empirical evidence for God. Therefore, the logistics of the theist shouldn't involve bluffing about evidence, and the logistics of the atheist shouldn't involve expecting physical evidence on demand.
Yes, that is the point I was trying to stress. Once the argument reaches a point where both sides agree to not try to provide any evidence, they can argue purely with logic rather than observation. However, there is the valid argument that absence of evidence is evidence of absence.
¨I contend that we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.¨
