RE: The most important reason anyone is a atheist
November 10, 2013 at 10:20 am
(This post was last modified: November 10, 2013 at 10:23 am by Whateverist.)
(November 9, 2013 at 11:42 pm)enrico Wrote:(November 9, 2013 at 11:26 pm)whateverist Wrote: In relation to the Science which has done so much to improve our quality of life and to add so much to our understanding of the way the world works, your science bears no resemblance. In relation to the good stuff, your science is still but a thin, oxymoronic shadow.
You strike one more dogma (false truth).
Physical science has done a lot.
A lot to keep the humanity afloat not to create progress.
You show me a single thing that create progress and i will cover you with 24 carat gold.
I already discuss this in previous posts and none could bring forward a single achievement.
I never used the word "progress". We may actually agree on this point. Yes, science has done much to keep humanity "afloat". We now make up an enormous amount of the earth's biomass and we largely dictate what other creatures flourish so that they can feed us. If you are questioning whether this state of affairs is a good thing, so am I.
But that isn't a direct result of modern science. What I did claim is that modern science has given us a huge increase in understanding of how the world works. That understanding has then been exploited by any and all for their own use or profit. In that sense, science has been a Pandora's box. Time will tell if we can wisely manage its bounty. Science never will and never can provide that wisdom as it is value neutral. It can however continue to reveal causal relationships necessary to solve problems, which at least could be useful provided anyone is inclined to solve those problems.
I haven't made any extraordinary claims for science based on the scientific method. You on the other hand have claimed that science based on intuition is transformational. However you have conceded that there is no way for you to support this claim, unless we join you in drinking the kool aid. If you are an example of the transformation I can expect by applying the science of intuition, frankly, I'm not impressed. I would hate to become one more pompous individual convinced he had all the answers and knew what was best but unable to articulate any of that wisdom.