RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
November 13, 2013 at 9:07 am
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2013 at 10:07 am by pocaracas.)
Ah.... a new chew toy! And you guys were keeping him all to yourselves!!
Welcome sleepy, I hope you enjoy all the discussion... you're already having!
Lacking those, even perfect logic leads you to bad results.
The premise.
The existence of a god.
If there is an entity which requires that I acknowledge its existence and it doesn't show itself to me so I can acknowledge it, instead relies on my acceptance of other people's potentially flawed testimony, then that god is itself flawed... again, the premise is unsound.
Compare Israel and Palestine...
Compare any European country to Iran, Iraq, Kuweit, etc...
Portugal used to own half the world... look at it now... considered rubbish by Moodys
I can't say I have any misconception...
Requires prior belief in the existence of a deity. Enough said.
Welcome sleepy, I hope you enjoy all the discussion... you're already having!
(November 12, 2013 at 10:59 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Right now we are in reality. As opposed to non reality which none of us know. We only know this world. We were thrown into this world without any choice( thrownness- Heidegger)Indeed, no choice... But I wouldn't say thrown, unless you mean it metaphorically
(November 12, 2013 at 10:59 pm)Sleepy Wrote: How are we here? Is there really a moral standard? Do we come from nothingness and go back to nothingness?Who knows?
(November 12, 2013 at 10:59 pm)Sleepy Wrote: "Who, when disaster strikes them, say, "Indeed we belong to Allah , and indeed to Him we will return." Quran 2: 156Logic... requires sound premisses...
I'm not your average Muslim that spouts out verses. Islam is the religion of logic. And I know atheists always claim to love logic but many a times even when not talking about religion I see the logic falter and they really don't even have what it takes for 3000 level philosophy courses. Not many do. Not saying that means anything though if you do comprehend but simply trying to talk about logic.
Lacking those, even perfect logic leads you to bad results.
(November 12, 2013 at 10:59 pm)Sleepy Wrote: It's my first time on these forums. What about Islam is illogical to any of the atheists on here?The same thing as with all other religions.
The premise.
The existence of a god.
(November 12, 2013 at 10:59 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Islam beliefsThe requirement of a belief is illogical.
If there is an entity which requires that I acknowledge its existence and it doesn't show itself to me so I can acknowledge it, instead relies on my acceptance of other people's potentially flawed testimony, then that god is itself flawed... again, the premise is unsound.
(November 12, 2013 at 10:59 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Islam is the religion of science, knowledge, wisdom.Right until the part where it isn't.
Compare Israel and Palestine...
Compare any European country to Iran, Iraq, Kuweit, etc...
(November 12, 2013 at 10:59 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Read some history. The entire Renaissance was founded because of the Islamic Golden Age.Stuck in ancient times, are we?
Portugal used to own half the world... look at it now... considered rubbish by Moodys
(November 12, 2013 at 10:59 pm)Sleepy Wrote: What questions does anyone have for me? If you have any misconceptions about Islam tell me.
I can't say I have any misconception...
Requires prior belief in the existence of a deity. Enough said.
