(November 14, 2013 at 12:03 am)Esquilax Wrote: Understood. Like I said, you seem more honest than some theists here, but that's not gonna save unjustified beliefs from the axe.Not just any axe, but the Esquilaxe!

Anyway...
There's still something I think you might be missing from the idea of slavery, but I'll save that for another time. It seems like a lot of this discussion on slavery is basically an assertion that the Bible must be wrong because it doesn't agree with all of our moral standards. (Not just yours, to be honest some of these laws don't make sense to me either.)
But that's the thing - if the Bible was in complete agreement with what most people already believe, what a problem that would be! It would be evidence that the Bible was written later, as an elaborate hoax or something. But we can't possibly expect to understand why God says and does everything; otherwise we would almost be gods too.
Which brings me to something else.
I've been loving talking with you guys about this stuff, but it seems to me at the end of the day, while we still believe the Bible comes from God, you look at it and see an ancient fairy tale. We can never seem to understand why you don't take the Bible for anything other that what it so blatantly looks like, so you have tho get into the details of it, pointing out problems and contradictions and just hoping we'll come to think of what you've been thinking all along: The Bible is fantasy, about on a level with the Quran and the Gilgamesh Epic. I mean, we might as well translate the Grimm brothers into the world's languages and say it was inspired by Rumpelstiltskin or something!
Is this kind of what you guys are thinking a lot of times? Or am I way off?
P.S. I'm not trying to mock what you guys are thinking, I just want to understand why you think that way.