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Women's Rights and Religion
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RE: Women's Rights and Religion
(November 24, 2013 at 10:43 pm)FiniteImmortal Wrote: Hundreds of years before "Women are from Mars, Men are from Venous" was written, God payed the biggest compliment to Womenhood when he told men to love their wives as Christ loved the Church. That is an unconditional love that transcends all time and space. When Jesus first appeared after his Resurrection, he chose to reveal himself to a woman, he called her by name "Mary". At that time in that oppressive culture a woman's testimony wasn't even valid in court. When he spoke to the woman at the well, he cut through all her struggles and life of brokenness and offered her living water in which when she would drink would never thirst again. When she caught a glimpse of who he was, she ran as fast as her feet could carry her to tell everyone about the man who told her about herself, as she felt like she was on the brink of the most monumental discovery of her life. Feminine imagery is used through out in reference to beauty, majesty, and something that needs be protected and nourished. The bible describes them as the weaker vessel, which conforms to reality as we know it, politically correct or not. It is a description of reality, not a prescription for women to be weak. There are some really tough women and some fairly fragile men out there, but as a whole we are bigger, tougher, and usually dumber : ) Womenhood should be esteemed by men above all other earthly things. It is when we deviate from the instructions of "Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loves the church", that we have a 6 in 10 divorce rate. We have the capacity and admonition to love unconditionally because god first loved us unconditionally.

This might be slightly off topic but I really have to pull you up on your understanding of unconditional love. God's love is anything but unconditional - it bears no relation to the love I have for my daughter.

God's love is based entirely on sub-subservience. You obey his rules - including the command to love him and he will be good to you in the next life. Disobey these rules, however, and its a lifetime in Hell for you. Forgiveness is only given if you beg him for it.

The Bible is littered with stories of God punishing men for one thing or another, with no sense of "fitting the crime."

- Humanity cursed forever for one couple eating the wrong fruit.
- The Flood
- Turning a woman into salt for looking at the fireworks.
- innumerable deaths throughout the bible (1.5 - 3 million people) invariably for failing to obey.

The very fact that you use "God payed the biggest compliment to Womenhood when he told men to love their wives as Christ loved the Church," shows that you are not talking about unconditional love.

I love my wife. I love my daughter. Only one of those 2 is unconditional.

Of course my love for my wife is not based on her obeying me as God demands. It is based on a lifetime of mutual respect, trust and sharing.

Equally, of course, one would seriously hope that Jesus' love for the Church was not unconditional. I'd hope he would be as fucking furious with it as I am over the whole child-molesting and cover-up thing, along with a whole variety of other crimes.
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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Women's Rights and Religion - by Bipolar Bob - November 24, 2013 at 2:19 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by MindForgedManacle - November 24, 2013 at 3:33 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Bipolar Bob - November 24, 2013 at 4:16 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by CleanShavenJesus - November 24, 2013 at 4:21 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by freedomfromforum - November 24, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by thesummerqueen - November 24, 2013 at 5:48 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Captain Colostomy - November 24, 2013 at 5:59 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Bipolar Bob - November 24, 2013 at 6:06 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Captain Colostomy - November 24, 2013 at 6:20 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by FiniteImmortal - November 24, 2013 at 7:12 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Bipolar Bob - November 24, 2013 at 10:05 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by FiniteImmortal - November 24, 2013 at 10:43 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by max-greece - November 25, 2013 at 4:31 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by FiniteImmortal - November 25, 2013 at 5:34 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by max-greece - November 25, 2013 at 6:47 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by KichigaiNeko - November 25, 2013 at 8:57 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Captain Colostomy - November 24, 2013 at 8:07 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by FiniteImmortal - November 24, 2013 at 8:50 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Captain Colostomy - November 24, 2013 at 9:32 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by FiniteImmortal - November 24, 2013 at 10:06 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by thesummerqueen - November 24, 2013 at 10:25 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Captain Colostomy - November 24, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 24, 2013 at 11:08 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by FiniteImmortal - November 24, 2013 at 11:35 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 25, 2013 at 7:23 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by FiniteImmortal - November 25, 2013 at 9:03 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 25, 2013 at 9:23 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 25, 2013 at 1:03 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by FiniteImmortal - November 25, 2013 at 2:19 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 25, 2013 at 4:05 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by FiniteImmortal - November 25, 2013 at 7:05 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 25, 2013 at 4:32 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Lion IRC - November 25, 2013 at 2:26 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Captain Colostomy - November 25, 2013 at 2:40 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by FiniteImmortal - November 25, 2013 at 4:22 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Captain Colostomy - November 25, 2013 at 9:07 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by FiniteImmortal - November 25, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Captain Colostomy - November 25, 2013 at 10:10 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 25, 2013 at 10:21 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Ben Davis - November 25, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 25, 2013 at 12:28 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by KichigaiNeko - November 25, 2013 at 9:08 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Sejanus - November 25, 2013 at 9:27 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Brian37 - November 25, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Bipolar Bob - November 25, 2013 at 11:47 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Zazzy - November 25, 2013 at 10:14 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by thesummerqueen - November 25, 2013 at 10:17 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Brian37 - November 25, 2013 at 10:08 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by Brian37 - November 27, 2013 at 9:13 am
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by hppavilion - November 25, 2013 at 5:12 pm
RE: Women's Rights and Religion - by thesummerqueen - November 25, 2013 at 10:47 pm

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