Women's Rights and Religion

[FiniteImmortal]

This might be slightly off topic but I really have to pull you up on your understanding of unconditional love. God's love is anything but unconditional - it bears no relation to the love I have for my daughter.

God's love is based entirely on sub-subservience. You obey his rules - including the command to love him and he will be good to you in the next life. Disobey these rules, however, and its a lifetime in Hell for you. Forgiveness is only given if you beg him for it.

That is an especially twisted and shallow representation of the narrative. I'm sure you don't really believe that is an accurate portrayal of it, anymore than "Hitler was an atheist, so all atheists are despicable and going to go down the same road, and they all secretly worship Darwin." is an accurate portray of the atheist perspective.
As far as the Father-son relationship with God, I'm not sure that its all that different from the relationship with my own dad. He is clearly above me, I am, or was, under his authority. I still had the free choice to go against his wishes, even though his wishes for me were for me, and my protection, and proper raising. Though it was because of him I ever existed at all to even have to option of either living by his will or not. In my life I can remember several times I went against his wishes and paid dearly in consequence of reality, not because he punished me, but because the real world did. When I new I screwed my self, fully informed and knowingly, it was regretful and hellish. Hell is a bed we make for ourselves, by trying to engineer our own happiness apart from the natural order of things and apart from truth.

The Bible is littered with stories of God punishing men for one thing or another, with no sense of "fitting the crime."
- Humanity cursed forever for one couple eating the wrong fruit.

Was this for eating the wrong fruit? Wasn't it for willfully and intentionally attempting to redefine good and evil, and to attempt to be as gods ourselves?

- The Flood

The pinnacle of a creation gone wrong, and ending in utter debauchery, rape, murder, thievery, and every heinous act conceivable. If I built a robot i could somehow give freewill to and that is what it ended up doing, I'd trash it too and start over. Anyone being honest would too.

- Turning a woman into salt for looking at the fireworks.

Imagery used to convey what it is like when you are on the cusp of deliverance from sin and all manner of perverseness, and then looking back with desire.

- innumerable deaths throughout the bible (1.5 - 3 million people) invariably for failing to obey.

The old testament is littered with history demonstrating the Israelite's and their on-again-off-again relationship with god. It conforms to the reality we know as sin leads to death, go spend a night in the ghetto and see how the meth crowd is looking.

The very fact that you use "God payed the biggest compliment to Womenhood when he told men to love their wives as Christ loved the Church," shows that you are not talking about unconditional love.

I love my wife. I love my daughter. Only one of those 2 is unconditional.

If unconditional love is a real thing, which anyone with children will likely admit it is, it is because God loved us first, unconditionally, and it is because of him passing that on to us that we have the ability. Unconditional love has a built-in necessity to transcend a material universe. A cold, empty, material-only universe offers no such notions.

Of course my love for my wife is not based on her obeying me as God demands. It is based on a lifetime of mutual respect, trust and sharing.

God doesn't want us to love him for his benefit, he's not a chubby 15 year-old looser desperately wishing for someone to like him, he wants humanity to love him and observe his admonitions for our benefit and happiness. Loving god with all our strength, and loving our neighbor as we love ourselves is the crux of all of it, how would do societies and corrupt organisations arrive at genocide, oppression, and depravity when following these wishes?

Equally, of course, one would seriously hope that Jesus' love for the Church was not unconditional. I'd hope he would be as fucking furious with it as I am over the whole child-molesting and cover-up thing, along with a whole variety of other crimes.

The church you mention is Catholicism, and is obviously an abomination and a ritual club or fakery. No argument there, it it disgusting and has absolutely nothing to do with the "Church" referred to in the bible. And, actually it is mentioned in there as The Mother of Harlots.