Women's Rights and Religion

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Please read up on the definitions of religion and atheism, m'kay? Also, your quote tags are effed up.

1) reading up on definitions will not give atheists the get-out-out-religious-viewpoints-free card.

Let's see where you go with this.

To say that two opposing view points that differ only in the god they believe in (transcendent or humanistic), that one falls under the guise of religion, and one falls under the guise of non-religion is preposterous and implies that secularism is somehow neutral and above needing to answer difficult questions.

FALSE.

There's a lot of misinformation in that post, so let's start at the basics:

IT is a false dichotomy to insinuate that when given the proposition "God x exists" that one must chose either for or against, and that necessarily both positions are based on faith. I cite Qualiasoup here who gives an excellent demonstration of why this reasoning is flawed and outright wrong:





Secularism has NOTHING to do with religious beliefs. Nothing. You can be an atheist or a theist and be a secularist. Secularism is a political structure on the best way to govern state sovereignty. It is nothing to do with whether god 'x' exists or not.

Start from there and the rest of the above disintegrates into nothing. In short, please stop tossing around ideas that you seemingly don't know much about. This is not a criticism; everyone learns things. But is debilitates your argument when you start off on the wrong premise and continue to build on it.

That is an illusion of religious proportions. Atheists believe in something, and most as I laid out above. That is a long, complex, faith-based series of things to maintain in one's understanding of the world.

FALSE.

Beliefs are mutually exclusive to atheism, unless one states, unequivocally, there are no gods (plural). I can reject god claims as they are given to me. It would be foolish, and give me the burden of proof, if I were to dismiss them all off the bat, regardless of how un-evidenced they are.

Everything you described above I replied to. Seeing as you did not, I can only assume you either didn't read it, or just ignored it. So to clarify, that many atheists are for sexual equality or accept evolution and abiogensis is NOTHING to do with atheism. It is a coincidence that many atheists accept these theories, but understandable considering the severe weight of evidence that supports them and the complete lack of an alternative.