RE: Christians, what is your VERY BEST arguments for the existence of God?
February 10, 2010 at 1:05 pm
(February 10, 2010 at 12:51 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:Quote:You said "No, that would be evidence based. Based on the fact that most people don't lie habitually (like when you ask for directions and it's actually worthwhile doing because the majority of people don't lie in order to get you lost)."
Yes I did say that... and your problem?
Quote:Which I take to mean you would believe people because most don't lie habitually? I certainly wouldn't be lying to you, not that it matters. You consider that to be evidence based in your own words.
Yes. What's the problem?
The problem is that should I tell you what God is like you're now saying that you would take that as evidence.
(February 10, 2010 at 12:51 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:fr0d0 Wrote:If we're talking about things we can evidence, yes. talking about God, no.
Why should God be an exception?
Why shouldn't he be an exception?
[insert Evie loop #1 here]
(February 10, 2010 at 12:51 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: If something can't be evidenced that doesn't make it rational to just go ahead and believe anyway. On the contrary - if there can be no (valid) evidence then it's rational to not believe in it. That's what evidence is for - right?
If you're not talking about God, yes.
(February 10, 2010 at 12:51 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:Quote:You're an AI bot and this is your program:-
Oh, let me see...
Quote:"I won't think about it because there is no evidence, and if there's no evidence, how can I think about it [loop to 1st word in sentence ad infinitum]"
Actually that's not what I said now is it?
In essence it's what you always say.
(February 10, 2010 at 12:51 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: I'm saying I'll consider anything, with evidence or without, but I choose evidence because evidence is how rational choices are to be made - and I choose rationality. Evidence infers what is most likely to be true - and I am interested in the truth - this is rational, right?
Wrong. This is selective reasoning.
(February 10, 2010 at 12:51 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:Quote:Let me know if you manage to break the loop.
What loop?
Quote:"I won't think about it because there is no evidence, and if there's no evidence, how can I think about it [loop to 1st word in sentence ad infinitum]"