RE: Christians, what is your VERY BEST arguments for the existence of God?
February 12, 2010 at 3:13 pm
(February 12, 2010 at 2:04 pm)Tiberius Wrote: No...I said (repeatedly) that the counter-argument is a parody *only*. It shows how the argument can be turned around easily to prove that God doesn't exist, by relying on the same faulty logic as the original.What is the original you were parodying? Since the modern forms of the argument involve modal logic, I would expect the parody to do the same... Plus the most obvious reason that your parody fails is because it involves a "non-existent creator" which is a logically incoherent notion.
Quote:Even Plantinga doesn't hold it as a good proof, he admits that due to his use of S5, it doesn't prove anything other than the being (God) is either logically necessary or logically impossible, leaving us no closer to the ultimate truth he set out to prove. His argument has other holes, which I already covered.It is not S5 that is the issue, but the possibility premise (P). Plantinga thinks the argument is good against those who think P is plausible. I couldn't see how your other points were relevant to the modal argument - could you be more specific?
Rev. Rye: does Kant's objection apply to Plantinga's argument?
frodo: I don't "debate".