RE: Christians, what is your VERY BEST arguments for the existence of God?
February 14, 2010 at 12:55 am
(February 14, 2010 at 12:43 am)tackattack Wrote: So the only examples of perfection we can define somewhat accurately are abstract constructs? Well why would I seek to try and observe from reality anything about a perfect being ? You can use your abstract concepts like math to justify your mathmatical perfect circle, and I'll continue to use the abstract concept of religion to justify God. At lest the evidence is relatable to the proof.Where did I say that the only examples of perfection we can define are abstract? I didn't. Just because my two examples are abstract doesn't mean all examples are. It's a non-sequitur to come to such a conclusion, even if I can't come up with any. Not being able to come up with an example in no way affects the actual examples there might be.
You could easily argue for perfection of non-abstract things like tables if you gave the criteria for perfection in terms of the attributes of a table. I'm not going to do it, I suspect it would be a monumental task, but it doesn't mean it cannot be done.
Regardless, the ability to explain the perfection of object X in no way affects the use of object X in the ontological argument. The argument states that perfect objects have to exist, otherwise they wouldn't be perfect. The modal form says that if perfect (or "maximally great") objects can possibly exist, then they must necessarily possibly exist, and then they therefore either necessarily exist or they are impossible.
