(December 10, 2013 at 4:34 am)rexbeccarox Wrote:Sorry I can't give a more detailed response now.(December 10, 2013 at 1:04 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: What he is saying by that is that some people have a fucked up sexuality, and educating people out of it is like Christians educating five year olds out of being gay, fucking useless. Truth bad people exist, and yes education on rape and teaching children rape is bad is a good thing, just look at cultures where men are not taught that. However it has gotten to the point were you can't even talk about things that may prevent rape that a women can do.
Here is a few things I propose to prevent rape.
In boys. Teach them that being a man isn't about getting all the "bitches". Women are not objects to be used and abused, they are equals. Also boys especially in Christian or Muslim homes have no way to deal with pent up sexual urges, and quite frankly you need something. Desperate guys will do some crazy shit for sex (Note most will not resort to rape). Third is simple. No means no. Fourthly applies mostly to Muslims, if you would not want done to you, do not do it to women even if you marry one (I.E sex on demand) and if you think something your religion says is right is wrong, trust your gut.
For girls. There is the obvious, like don't walk through shady parts of town at night night ( good advice for all). Learn to use a gun or mace (Again good advice for all), And keep a cellphone handy (again). Also, do not sexually flirt with people you do not intend to have sex with, as that can be a trigger for rapists, but more importantly it will make people hate you.One more good point to remember too is do let a drink or food out of your sight. Also as thunderfoot said in the video, body language, you should always appear self possessed and confident. Rapists are often called predator for a reason, they go for the weak, is one. Another that I cannot stress enough is REPORT IT TO THE POLICE ASAP! The more these pieces of shit think they can get away with it the more they will do it.
Lemon, I love how passionate you are about this... but the bolds I added are a little off.
For the first one, people flirt. It doesn't always mean something, and it's certainly not a guarantee of anything. If I'm flirting with a guy at a party, I'm not necessarily saying "let's have sex", and if he takes it that way, it doesn't give him permission to assault me. Also, if I'm being myself, fuck off to anyone who doesn't like me!
For the second one, are non-self-possessed, non-confident women just supposed to hole themselves up in a corner because they don't possess those traits? I mean, I'm shy. It's hard sometimes for me to roll up into a room like I own it. Are my two choices to stay home or to possibly get raped?
I know you didn't mean any of it like that, and I'm pretty sure the only reason you're using those as examples is that you're naive, but you need to know that these examples of how a woman should "behave" are only perpetuating this ridiculous rape culture. Your naivete is charming and innocent and sweet, but not completely realistic.
As for the flirting, yes people do it. But when you go around randomly flirting with people the bigger issue you have to seal with is people thinking your interested when your not, this makes for awkward situations and hurt feelings. It is also how rapists pick there targets, read there own accounts, they tell people this.
To address your second point. I'm not perpuating rape culture by talking things people can do to avoid being a target, anymore then people who buys locks for their doors are perpuating theft culture. No you don't have to roll in like you own the place, only carry yourself with confidence, which has a lot of benefits that are far more immediate then avoid rape.
Also instead of presenting me with a false dichotomy read earlier in the post. If your concerned a bout being a target regardless, learn to shoot and carry a gun, or if you can't buy bear mace. That way you defend from rapist or all kinds of creeps.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.