(December 10, 2013 at 9:53 am)Zazzy Wrote: 1.) If the word "no" is said, at any point, there is no consent.
2.) If she's incapacitated, there's no consent, even if she seemed willing earlier.
No gray area.
And therein lies a perfect example of oversimplification of an issue. You've essentially said that it is only rape if she's incapacitated or said no. I think there are many cases outside of this that could be - and perhaps are - considered rape.
Does it consider where a woman (since everyone seems to be talking about women) puts herself in a situation she doesn't know how to get out of? Where things escalate and she feels powerless to object? Those cases may or may not be rape if it could be reasonably expected that a man could have recognised this.
