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Maybe People Should Not Look Up To YouTube Atheist
RE: Maybe People Should Not Look Up To YouTube Atheist
(December 10, 2013 at 1:59 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(December 10, 2013 at 1:09 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Well let's think about this. Where do you put the mace? Handbag? Backpack? Zipped? When do you pull it out? Before or after the person attacks before or after they throw your bag away before or after they knock it out of your hand? What about if you were home? Where is the bear mace supposed to go? One in each room? One in each drawer?

My point is a million scenarios could happen. You could jab someone in the eye with your finger. Or he could break your finger. You could mace him, or he could mace you.

In other words you're welcome to try, but I really believe it's naive to think that it's going to save you. It could and it could not.

The issue with idea that individual women can prevent rape is not just the tendency to cause shifting of blame, but that it's fundamentally a flawed idea that so many in our society subscribes to that I believe makes people complacent in trying to actually prevent rape with legitimate methods.

Btw, what do you mean women act as if nothing they can do will help reduce the risk? What kinds of actions fall under this umbrella?
So because a million scenarios could happen you should not do in your power to try to prevent them? That's what I advocate,doing what is in your power to protect your self. Obviously there are a million scenarios that could happen where you would not be successful, that doesn't mean something like bear mace won't increase your chances of being successful at defending yourself.
Let me say it like this, why do you put a lock on your door someone could pick a lock?
BTW the sort of behavior that fall into the category you ask of is simple. You identify which behaviours increase your chances of becoming a victim and avoid them. Of the ones I listed earlier, you should avoid those anyway.

You're not understanding me. The things you have to do to "prevent rape" is fucking bullshit. It makes your life difficult and inconvenient and it gives you no significant chance of survival. And yes, women are told since they're little girls what to do to "prevent" harassment or rape, we've been told by everyone how to "be careful" as if it makes a difference well it really doesn't. Muslims girls have been told that the hijab will protect them, and the rest of us have been told that if we're careful enough that'll protect us. Well, the first time I was molested I was 8 and my parents were in the same room but weren't looking. I had no idea what the fuck was happening. If only I had a mace, right? I showed you the website in hopes that you can understand the variety of situations in which a man would rape a girl and then maybe you'll understand that it's quite ridiculous to think anyone could "prevent" any of that. (Because I didn't want to use my own experiences as example or you might think I'm "going nuts" because it's personal. For the record, I'm not going nuts) Or that they'd even think that they had to prevent anything. It's just that shit happens, and looking back everyone can find something that the victim "could've done" to increase her chances of survival but is it really practical to focus on this? Does it even make any sense?

You keep talking about chances. Chances of being a victim. How concrete are these chances? I'm not responsible for a rapist thinking: oh, that's an easy one, she's wearing heels, probably can't run. I'm not going to delude myself with the idea that if I do everything right my chances of being a victim is really low. That's not even true. Can you prove it? Can you show me a study that says if you're more confident, you're less likely to be a victim. Well what if I had a really bad day? It isn't fair to ask women to do these things with the idea that it could prevent rape when it really doesn't.

Oh don't get me wrong, I would love to have something that will give me a real fighting chance, but let's not drag out all these old misconceptions and pretend they're true. Oh and why do I put a lock on my door? I don't know, but it hasn't stopped any burglaries so far. The only difference with being robbed with locked doors and without is how guilty you feel after. A locked door isn't really helpful, what you need is an alarm system and a guard dog. What women can do about rape is like a locked door, but people somehow think that it's a full grade security system.
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RE: Maybe People Should Not Look Up To YouTube Atheist - by pineapplebunnybounce - December 10, 2013 at 7:41 pm

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