(December 12, 2013 at 12:03 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote:I'll say it now, calling people names isn't going to get us anywhere, and there geniune mysgenists in these groups no doubt. However many of these group such as cafe are not calling any body feminazis and if you want examples of women groups fighting for superiority, just look at the court system here in Canada.(December 12, 2013 at 11:44 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Uh yeah of course. That said these feminists groups are not fighting for equality, many of these people want superiority. If they fighting for equality then why do they freak out over the idea of men meeting to discuss issues from their perspective. Given how they react when men disagree with them, I find it difficult to believe these people want equality. Let me say it like this, women should have groups where they can meet and discuss issues and campaign for rights, just don't try to tell me you want everyone when in most cases you don't. ( I don't use you to refer to you specifically.
Evidence that they're fighting for superiority would examples of things they're fighting for, not how they react to men's groups. In any case, if these men's groups really want equality, then why are they reacting to feminism by calling them feminazis? There is bad behaviour on both sides I'm not sure why you're giving the men a free pass, is it merely because feminism "started it"? Or is it because men's groups are not for equality, they're just for men's rights, so it's in line with their agenda to be the way they are? And I think I said before that feminism is incredibly broad these days and being a feminist doesn't mean you support every movement that is going on that is backed by various feminist groups, and there are also a lot of feminist groups and a lot of men are feminists so clearly they are part of the picture. The thing is rights for women is not an isolated issue, it affects everyone considering women are 50% of the population, it's not solely women's problem, it's everyone's problem. So if a feminist group excludes people on the basis on their gender then obviously they're discriminatory but that isn't the idea of feminism and obviously not the best way to go about getting things done.
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Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.