(December 12, 2013 at 1:43 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I'll say it now, calling people names isn't going to get us anywhere, and there geniune mysgenists in these groups no doubt. However many of these group such as cafe are not calling any body feminazis and if you want examples of women groups fighting for superiority, just look at the court system here in Canada.
True, a lot of mens groups have genuine misogynists. There are also a lot of people who are called misogynists, not for being hostile towards women, but for being hostile towards feminism and I think we should understand those are two, distinctly different things. In fact, I know of at least a couple of MRAs who are very hostile towards feminism itself and are also women and don't seem to be self hating. So, if you throw around a word as freely as I often see the word misogynist thrown around, eventually, people are going to question your use of that word. This is especially true if you claim it means something other than what it's widely understood to mean and I've seen that done a lot, too (for example, I have a friend told she was a misogynist because she uses the wrong kind of pesticide for her plants. No joke).
As for advantages overall, I'll be the first to admit, men are generally the political leaders and corporate leaders and just generally in the most positions of power and influence. But if you take a divorced father who's had to deal with the family courts for custody and/or child support, and ask him about his experiences with sexism, you may get a vastly different view of things. If we're going to address the areas where women are at a disadvantage because of plain ol' sexism but routinely dismiss (or accuse of derailing) when people try to talk about areas where men are at a disadvantage because of sexism, the end result isn't going to be the equality many feminists tell me they want; the end result will be closer to a matriarchy. I don't want that, either.
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"If you cling to something as the absolute truth and you are caught in it, when the truth comes in person to knock on your door you will refuse to let it in." ~ Siddhartha Gautama