(December 12, 2013 at 3:11 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:Oh you mean custody cases. Yea I'd agree that's one area where men are shortchanged. But I'm from a muslim country, in shariah fathers get custody by default or it's extremely difficult for women to get custody in divorce, extremely. So nonmuslim men often convert after their divorce to get tried in shariah courts so that they can get custody by default. And I also know mothers who refuse to take custody after divorces.(December 12, 2013 at 2:14 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Could you be more specific? I tried looking it up, didn't find anything relating to what we're discussing.Actually I think Tara just stated my position better then I did.
ETA: I mean Lemon.
So I definitely agree that custody shouldn't favour one side over the other so strongly just because of cultural "norms". But I'm not sure what this has to do with feminism. If we were to point out all the places where women are shortchanged and say men's rights group aren't doing shit for that, that wouldn't really be fair, would it? Because first of all we don't know if they are doing things about it, but we certainly cannot fault them for how things are today.
And this is a very north american view of women's issues, if you look at the third world countries, there is a great need for feminism and a fight for women's rights. In N america I feel like people spend a lot of time squabbling over the details (custody isn't a detail, but other issues), but in many places in the world, women don't even get to go to school or work just because they're women. When disaster strikes in third world countries women are more likely to die than men, women suffer higher rates of infant mortality than men in several different countries, in refugee camps women often have to have "survival sex" to get food and resources to keep themselves alive. So feminism isn't going to stop just because some groups have lost sight of what they're doing because there's still a great need for women's rights in many parts of the world. I'm not going to say these are issues that men's rights have to deal with to prove they're for equality. What's the point of that? It's petty. Whoever is going to deal with it deals with it, someone needs to, that's all.
