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Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13?
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RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13?
(December 14, 2013 at 11:18 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Mark 5:2-13
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Quote:So my initial questions are:
1. Where did the man's will and the demon's will start and end?

Seems in this case the demon had the greater control, I would say the man had lost his identity.

Quote:2. How did the possessed man recognize jesus? If the demon's told him that jesus was real and identified him, isn't that an unfair advantage? Why can't demons tell all of us which god is real?

He did not, the demon did, Jesus conversation was with the demon not the man.

Quote:3. If the man's free will is strong enough to drag the demons within him toward jesus, why couldn't he have excised them himself?

The demons knew who Jesus was, the man had no idea, these demons recognized the One who was always above them, ie. their creator as angels. They became demons when they chose to reject Christ.

Quote:4. Why would the demons relinquish control since they obviously knew that meeting jesus wouldn't go well for them?

They knew the had no choice and opted to be in the swine than to be cast out into the land. They made this statement themselves.

Quote:5. Why would a loving god allow demon possession?

The man allowed them to enter him, God gave him what he allowed. This is the simple answer, there is a greater thing going on here but most people who do not believe wouldn't understand and just call God cruel.

Quote:6. What happened to the demons ultimately? From the story, it appeared as though they died. Can demon's simply die and no longer exist?

I wouldn't think so, as a matter of fact I do not believe they did. Remember the demons were trying to deal with the sovereign God they had rejected by asking to be allowed to enter the swine, they did not want to be cast out into the land, they needed to possess.

Quote:7. Why did the demons drive the pigs into the sea to drown?

They didn't IMO, Jesus wanted to show the demons and His disciples that He had ultimate control over the demon and His creation, so He allowed the swine or made them run into the sea. Why, so the demons would not have anything or one to possess, the fate they were trying to avoid.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Brakeman - December 14, 2013 at 11:18 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Brakeman - December 15, 2013 at 10:43 am
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Ksa - December 15, 2013 at 11:46 am
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Chad32 - December 15, 2013 at 11:51 am
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Ksa - December 15, 2013 at 11:53 am
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Chad32 - December 15, 2013 at 12:21 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Ksa - December 15, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Chad32 - December 15, 2013 at 12:58 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Brakeman - December 15, 2013 at 1:24 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Ksa - December 15, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Brakeman - December 15, 2013 at 4:24 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Chad32 - December 15, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Ksa - December 15, 2013 at 4:53 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Chad32 - December 15, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by orangebox21 - December 15, 2013 at 7:39 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Brakeman - December 15, 2013 at 6:06 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by orangebox21 - December 15, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Brakeman - December 15, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Chad32 - December 15, 2013 at 7:34 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Chad32 - December 15, 2013 at 8:00 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Brakeman - December 16, 2013 at 12:04 am
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Godschild - December 16, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by orangebox21 - December 17, 2013 at 12:17 am
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Drich - December 17, 2013 at 12:12 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Chad32 - December 17, 2013 at 12:18 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Drich - December 17, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Chad32 - December 17, 2013 at 12:51 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Drich - December 17, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Chad32 - December 17, 2013 at 3:46 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Aractus - December 23, 2013 at 9:04 am
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Chad32 - December 23, 2013 at 10:02 am
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Aractus - December 23, 2013 at 10:13 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Chad32 - December 24, 2013 at 3:25 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Tonus - December 24, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Godschild - December 24, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Tonus - December 24, 2013 at 6:47 pm
RE: Can christians here explain Mark 5:2-13? - by Chad32 - December 25, 2013 at 4:51 pm

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