(December 18, 2013 at 8:37 am)feeling Wrote:Oh the sarcasm. It burns!(December 18, 2013 at 8:22 am)bennyboy Wrote: Are we down to pointless meme pics already? "U mad bro?" pics coming next, or maybe pics of masturbating smilies?
The point is that what is pleasant and what is "good" are not necessarily the same. "Good" implies a goal, and in the argument about God, if good is an arbitrary human concept, the argument is meaningless. If God is real, and goodness/evilness is defined by God, then there's no human constraint on what that goal might be, and no way for people to determine, on their own, whether what they find uncomfortable or unpleasant is actually "evil," in the cosmic sense.
I don't think, therefore, that the omni-3 argument is the slam-dunk people take it for, because it equivocates between different kinds of definitions. But it still doesn't matter-- there are MANY good reasons not to believe in God-- like a complete lack of evidence, for example, or the fact that God is defined differently among perhaps thousands of different cultures.
All right then what is the goal? Enlighten me oh wise one.
I'm not God. My sense of morality is based on emotion: the things that disturb me, and which I wish to avoid, and the things which please me, and which I wish to magnify.
However, morality is about right behavior or right views, and rightness implies a goal. IF there is a God, and IF that God's goals are different than ours then what we call evil based on our biological reactions to things as (very) temporary beings, and what God would call evil, based on a knowledge of all the universe and an immortal view on time, could conceivably be very different. Demanding that an actually-existent God subscribe to OUR sense of what is moral or just doesn't make sense in that context.
Personally, I suspect that IF there some kind of God or Deity, it has very little concern with how our individual lives play out, and that morality is therefore a purely human construct; I very much doubt that anything I do today will affect how the universe unfolds in any important way. But that's not a logical argument, just a personal hunch.
