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Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true?
(December 23, 2013 at 3:27 am)savedwheat Wrote: Ok. At the very basest level God would be uncreated, alone from everlasting, and brought nature into existence.

And if the universe meets those requirements which it very well could, then why the need for a god?
If suppose god to be uncreated, then why not save a step and say the universe is uncreated. After all the big bang is only the beginning of the current state of the universe.
If the universe is uncreated and the big bang only the beginning of the current state, that would make the universe everlasting.
And since the big bang is was the creation of matter and the start of time and the laws of physics, that would mean that the big bang brought nature into existence.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by savedwheat - December 23, 2013 at 2:30 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Lion IRC - December 23, 2013 at 2:52 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 23, 2013 at 3:19 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Minimalist - December 23, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Lion IRC - December 23, 2013 at 9:03 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Chas - December 23, 2013 at 9:08 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by DLJ - December 24, 2013 at 6:38 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Mr Greene - December 23, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by TaraJo - December 24, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 23, 2013 at 3:30 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by ThomM - December 25, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Lemonvariable72 - December 23, 2013 at 8:24 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 23, 2013 at 3:37 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 23, 2013 at 3:47 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Angrboda - December 23, 2013 at 4:18 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Angrboda - December 23, 2013 at 4:34 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 23, 2013 at 4:40 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Tonus - December 23, 2013 at 9:09 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 23, 2013 at 4:54 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 23, 2013 at 5:15 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 23, 2013 at 5:28 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Cyberman - December 23, 2013 at 1:03 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Chas - December 23, 2013 at 8:46 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 23, 2013 at 5:55 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 23, 2013 at 5:59 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Angrboda - December 23, 2013 at 6:07 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Angrboda - December 23, 2013 at 6:05 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Cyberman - December 23, 2013 at 6:27 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by JustinGG - December 23, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by LastPoet - December 23, 2013 at 6:47 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Cyberman - December 23, 2013 at 6:53 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Lion IRC - December 23, 2013 at 7:48 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 23, 2013 at 7:52 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by LastPoet - December 23, 2013 at 8:53 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Lion IRC - December 23, 2013 at 7:55 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Lion IRC - December 23, 2013 at 8:07 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 23, 2013 at 7:53 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 23, 2013 at 8:20 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 23, 2013 at 9:12 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by LastPoet - December 23, 2013 at 9:46 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Cyberman - December 23, 2013 at 12:08 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Minimalist - December 23, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Cyberman - December 23, 2013 at 1:05 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by LastPoet - December 23, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by ronedee - December 23, 2013 at 3:43 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Bad Wolf - December 23, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Bad Wolf - December 23, 2013 at 4:21 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Tonus - December 23, 2013 at 4:31 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Bad Wolf - December 23, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Ksa - December 23, 2013 at 8:20 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Tonus - December 23, 2013 at 9:14 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Minimalist - December 23, 2013 at 10:47 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by max-greece - December 23, 2013 at 10:59 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Chas - December 24, 2013 at 2:51 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 24, 2013 at 4:19 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Angrboda - December 24, 2013 at 4:20 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by WesOlsen - December 24, 2013 at 4:17 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 24, 2013 at 5:34 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Esquilax - December 24, 2013 at 6:26 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Chas - December 24, 2013 at 10:46 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by WesOlsen - December 24, 2013 at 7:38 am
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by TaraJo - December 24, 2013 at 7:44 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by TaraJo - December 24, 2013 at 8:53 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by LastPoet - December 24, 2013 at 9:25 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Lion IRC - December 24, 2013 at 9:47 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by TaraJo - December 24, 2013 at 9:56 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by paulpablo - December 24, 2013 at 10:01 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by TaraJo - December 24, 2013 at 10:03 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by savedwheat - December 24, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by paulpablo - December 24, 2013 at 10:03 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by savedwheat - December 24, 2013 at 10:03 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by paulpablo - December 24, 2013 at 10:05 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Lion IRC - December 24, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Zen Badger - December 24, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by savedwheat - December 24, 2013 at 10:05 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by paulpablo - December 24, 2013 at 10:07 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by TaraJo - December 24, 2013 at 10:10 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by savedwheat - December 24, 2013 at 10:07 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Napoléon - December 24, 2013 at 10:08 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by savedwheat - December 24, 2013 at 10:08 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Napoléon - December 24, 2013 at 10:09 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by paulpablo - December 24, 2013 at 10:14 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by savedwheat - December 24, 2013 at 10:09 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by savedwheat - December 24, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by savedwheat - December 24, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by paulpablo - December 24, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by TaraJo - December 24, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by savedwheat - December 24, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by paulpablo - December 24, 2013 at 10:17 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Zen Badger - December 24, 2013 at 10:17 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by savedwheat - December 24, 2013 at 10:17 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by paulpablo - December 24, 2013 at 10:17 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by TaraJo - December 24, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by savedwheat - December 24, 2013 at 10:17 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by savedwheat - December 24, 2013 at 10:19 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by paulpablo - December 24, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by TaraJo - December 24, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by savedwheat - December 24, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by paulpablo - December 24, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by TaraJo - December 24, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by savedwheat - December 24, 2013 at 10:22 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Jackalope - December 24, 2013 at 10:43 pm
RE: Why is Christianity false and Atheism true? - by Tonus - December 24, 2013 at 10:47 pm

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