Poll for Christians: Are the End Times imminent?

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Where did you get your reason from? Where did you get your compassion from? Where did you get your empathy from?

These are evolved traits, formed in us because our survival was predicated, in the past, on being able to form cohesive, cooperative groups in order to stave off predators and build shelter, among other things. Compassion and empathy were inculcated because helping others allows the group to flourish more and gives us the greatest chance of passing on our genes. Reason allows one to better spot environmental hazards and navigate the world, and so it too makes for better chances of being passed on. Natural selection at work.

Where do you get your evidence from?

... The real world?

No animal displays these characteristics.

What an embarrassingly ill-informed thing to say. I hope the things the others have posted have thoroughly disabused you of this notion.

Not everyone agrees to your standards. Why should we accept your standards as truth?

I mentioned that in the initial post; because they take into account and prize the well being of thinking beings. Such things are also the only moral systems, by the way: religions aren't moral systems at all. They're just orders, given without context, nor a mechanism by which the morality of them can be determined.

Biblical morality states that: "there is no one rightous no not one." This is the truth of morality. You're not moral, I'm not moral, mother Teresa isn't moral.

Great, so if you aren't moral, how did you determine that the bible is a source of moral good, or that the quote you gave from it is truthful, if under its premise none of us have ever had experience with an actually moral being for contrast?

That has been and always will be the truth. No one can live up to what Biblical morality expects of us because "all of us like sheep have gone astray." We have all broken the law. We have all done wrong. We have all sinned. There have been times that we haven't been reasonable, compassionate, empathetic, and with evidence. So what happens then? What happens to a person who can't even live up to their own standards?

Who said we're all perfect? Saying "sometimes this morality fails!" isn't an argument against it. It's an endorsement of all the times it succeeds.

What's ironic is that we, who can't even live up to our own standards, want to hold God to those standards as if we have some kind of moral superiority to Him.

So if your standards are so lax, how did you determine that god's is better?

God created everything as good. We rebelled against Him and as a result there is bad. God didn't choose this or that to be good or bad, we make it that way then blame Him for the wrong we have created or ask Him to save us from the consequences (which He has done in the Christ).

Bare assertion: prove it.

I don't recall God telling me to get slaves but rather to be a servant to others.

"However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. " Leviticus 25.

Ahem.