(February 22, 2010 at 9:52 pm)REPuckett Wrote:Quote:I'm talking about the exact point of the text. The quote was from a king to slay people who didn't agree with him. The 'believers' or those who believed but didn't act upon their beliefs and were then spiritually dead though choice. I have no idea how you reached your conclusion... it just isn't ever suggested.
Read back through the discussion as it has evolved and you might get it then.
You've repeated the same point all through. It seems completely unrelated to the text. Your assertion that it was Jesus' words is simply incorrect. And the point of the story is as I've explored it.
(February 22, 2010 at 9:52 pm)REPuckett Wrote:Quote:Unless you intended to make something imperfect. You are all powerful and only you can know what would be perfect to you. In our minds we cannot judge what is perfect and what isn't.
Okay, going back to a previous post of mine, perfection is to be a subjective term then, huh?
We can assume, if we want to, that God created exactly what he wanted to create. To second guess this physical reality and presuppose a mystical and seemingly unworkable perfection seems futile.
(February 22, 2010 at 9:52 pm)REPuckett Wrote:Quote:From earth - yeah - heaven - made the same *somehow*.
You do realize the "on earth as it is in heaven" suggests that heaven precedes earth, right. In other words, on earth as it already is in heaven. With that said, your post makes no sense.
'Precedence' doesn't discount the idea. How would you think that it could?
(February 22, 2010 at 9:52 pm)REPuckett Wrote:Quote:No - what you touch, hear, smell, see and taste are what I'm talking about, in addition to thinking of course.
I can't experience god through my senses.
If you believed in God you would experience him and his creation through all of your senses.
(February 22, 2010 at 9:52 pm)REPuckett Wrote:Quote: I can support my whole argument logically and endeavour to do so.
Real logic? As opposed to just logic? If delusion is real logic then we're all screwed.
Indeed.