(February 23, 2010 at 5:35 pm)tavarish Wrote: No need. If you think that's an event in history, then there's nothing really much I can say to you that hasn't been said by modern science.
The best I can say is read a biology book.
Good luck. It's going to be a bumpy ride.
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I spend my life in school and just like people translate their religious books to mean they need to kill millions, you read your biology books to mean there are no true religions. If you're looking for it, then you will find it.
You want a defining question? Here's one for you, and I won't write you off after your deflection.
Despite the fact that every historical and modern form of science proves that for every action there must be a reaction... meaning that at the very beginning of time there had to be an action to create the universe... you still believe in... nothing?
You're so determined to throw off any possibility of any religion ever being legitimate, steeping yourself into a mindset that considers nothing more than what you see, that you blind yourself to the fact that your own religion - whether you want to call it that or not; you have evangelists, leaders making money off of it, and dedicated clergy (scientists) telling you what to think - is built on a fundamental idea that completely ignores its own teachings.
Relentless, I wouldn't bother arguing with scientific theories because that's all they are. But either way, no matter how you look at it. Something or SOMEONE had to MAKE the universe form. Its no more silly to consider a man building a boat large enough to hold 55,000 pairs of species, most of which are spiders and bugs, than for ANYONE to accept that out of all those species, only one of them developed a broca's area advanced enough to actually communicate on a level deeper than "food" "danger" and "sex now please".
I spend my days writing code to modify my companies servers while the birds outside keep chirping and eating bugs like they have for centuries and the monkeys keep throwing feces at the people walking by down at the zoo. We are unique in a way that no other creature we've ever discovered is unique and this capacity by itself insists that some Intelligent Being created us.
Here's the kicker, brother: you have no more proof what you're saying than I do of what I'm saying and to everyone but those that follow it, Atheism is just another religion.
If anything, science has proven that there IS a God out there. Believe me, I know there have been countless studies done by people determined to prove that God isn't real... but you and I both know that if you conduct an experiment with your mind set on proving something that you have no empirical evidence to support, your bias is going to tip it in your favor relentless of the true results.
No scientist has ever accidentally discovered God didn't exist.
The sad part is you'll spend your life pooring over complex literature and twitching your upper lip in disgust at those lesser mortals around you who don't agree with you until you're laying on your death bed staring up at the ceiling, wondering why in the world you never considered religion before then.
You ever spoke to a dying Atheist? There's no such creature.
