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Gay marriage
RE: Gay marriage
(January 5, 2014 at 8:51 am)Aractus Wrote: Well, in Australia medical staff who are ethically/morally opposed to abortions have to perform them - including 2nd/3rd trimester abortions. It is against the law for doctors/nurses to say they don't want to do it.

If a fireman is morally opposed to the extinguishing of fires, should he have a right to let your house burn, or should he realize that his job and his moral convictions are two separate things, and that his two choices are to either do his fucking job or get out of the way and let someone else do it, but the world doesn't have to make special exceptions every time he's offended? Thinking

Quote:On the issue of Marriage - if we allow same sex marriage then why not allow all forms of marriage we don't currently allow? Child-child, child-adult, incestuous couples? Now before you claim that my argument is rubbish - I believe every relationship I've mentioned should be legally recognized under civil union legislation, along with same-sex/heterosexual/polygamy, and every one else. Even if you redefine marriage to allow same-sex couples, you're still discriminating against other groups of people, just not same-sex couples anymore.

There's a thing called "analysis," that people can do to determine whether something is harmful or not, and since I'm sure you don't think murder laws discriminate against killers, I'd say you agree with me that harmful things should be restricted to within certain parameters, yes?

In terms of children, yes, we restrict what they can do. Why? Because they aren't fully equipped to make their own decisions yet, as anyone who has ever watched a kid eating paste could tell you. Hence, that's the only type of marriage you listed that I would be specifically against.

Quote:So you say that same-sex marriage ends discrimination, but it doesn't. Discrimination isn't always a bad thing, and the ideology behind same-sex marriage is no different.

I always find it interesting, the levels of dishonesty the religious will sink to at any given convenience, like pretending they can't see the difference between a justified restriction on an action in service to the public good, and restricting a class of people from an action based upon nothing more than "god durn't like it." It just goes to show how seriously they actually take their holy books. Thinking
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Gay marriage - by JohnCrichton72 - December 15, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Paraselene - December 15, 2013 at 10:25 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Polaris - December 15, 2013 at 10:28 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Minimalist - December 15, 2013 at 10:48 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by EgoRaptor - December 15, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - December 15, 2013 at 11:05 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Minimalist - December 16, 2013 at 2:19 am
RE: Gay marriage - by TaraJo - December 15, 2013 at 11:20 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 3, 2014 at 10:33 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Esquilax - January 3, 2014 at 11:36 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 3, 2014 at 11:50 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by EgoRaptor - January 4, 2014 at 12:51 am
RE: Gay marriage - by c172 - December 15, 2013 at 11:50 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Clueless Morgan - December 16, 2013 at 12:00 am
Re: Gay marriage - by NoraBrimstone - December 16, 2013 at 6:33 am
RE: Gay marriage - by JohnCrichton72 - December 16, 2013 at 7:18 am
RE: Gay marriage - by NoraBrimstone - December 17, 2013 at 7:48 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Violet - December 18, 2013 at 5:19 am
RE: Gay marriage - by JohnCrichton72 - December 19, 2013 at 5:58 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Violet - December 19, 2013 at 5:05 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by EgoRaptor - December 19, 2013 at 10:53 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Zen Badger - December 16, 2013 at 7:53 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Doubting Thomas - December 16, 2013 at 2:14 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lion IRC - December 17, 2013 at 5:56 am
RE: Gay marriage - by KichigaiNeko - December 17, 2013 at 8:39 am
RE: Gay marriage - by TaraJo - December 17, 2013 at 10:40 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Doubting Thomas - December 17, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by NoraBrimstone - December 17, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - December 19, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Esquilax - December 19, 2013 at 10:51 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Chas - December 19, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Aractus - December 20, 2013 at 5:52 am
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - January 4, 2014 at 3:00 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Whateverist - December 17, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Minimalist - December 17, 2013 at 12:57 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - December 17, 2013 at 1:45 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Aractus - December 19, 2013 at 3:34 am
RE: Gay marriage - by NoraBrimstone - December 19, 2013 at 3:57 am
RE: Gay marriage - by rexbeccarox - December 19, 2013 at 5:20 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Aractus - December 19, 2013 at 9:13 am
RE: Gay marriage - by rexbeccarox - December 19, 2013 at 6:18 am
RE: Gay marriage - by JohnCrichton72 - December 19, 2013 at 6:41 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Whateverist - December 19, 2013 at 7:03 am
RE: Gay marriage - by JohnCrichton72 - December 19, 2013 at 7:34 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Esquilax - December 19, 2013 at 8:09 am
RE: Gay marriage - by max-greece - December 19, 2013 at 9:19 am
RE: Gay marriage - by KichigaiNeko - December 19, 2013 at 7:07 am
RE: Gay marriage - by KichigaiNeko - December 19, 2013 at 7:38 am
RE: Gay marriage - by LastPoet - December 19, 2013 at 9:01 am
RE: Gay marriage - by KichigaiNeko - December 19, 2013 at 9:22 am
RE: Gay marriage - by max-greece - December 19, 2013 at 10:59 am
RE: Gay marriage - by LastPoet - December 19, 2013 at 10:42 am
Re: RE: Gay marriage - by NoraBrimstone - December 19, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Blake the Heretic - December 21, 2013 at 4:45 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Belac Enrobso - January 3, 2014 at 11:47 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 3, 2014 at 11:55 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 4, 2014 at 12:03 am
RE: Gay marriage - by FlyingNarwhal - January 4, 2014 at 3:46 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - January 4, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 4, 2014 at 1:14 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - January 4, 2014 at 1:41 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 4, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - January 4, 2014 at 4:26 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Chas - January 4, 2014 at 5:37 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 4, 2014 at 12:04 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Belac Enrobso - January 4, 2014 at 3:10 am
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - January 4, 2014 at 3:33 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Belac Enrobso - January 4, 2014 at 3:37 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Aractus - January 4, 2014 at 4:26 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 4, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 4, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 4, 2014 at 12:58 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 4, 2014 at 1:12 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by EgoRaptor - January 4, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 4, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - January 4, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by EgoRaptor - January 4, 2014 at 1:57 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 4, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Rahul - January 4, 2014 at 3:35 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 4, 2014 at 10:41 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 4, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - January 4, 2014 at 4:42 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 4, 2014 at 4:52 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - January 4, 2014 at 5:17 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by EgoRaptor - January 4, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - January 4, 2014 at 5:32 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - January 4, 2014 at 11:49 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 5, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - January 5, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - January 5, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 5, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - January 4, 2014 at 11:53 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - January 4, 2014 at 11:55 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - January 4, 2014 at 11:56 pm
Re: RE: Gay marriage - by NoraBrimstone - January 5, 2014 at 7:12 am
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - January 5, 2014 at 11:24 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Aractus - January 5, 2014 at 8:51 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Chas - January 5, 2014 at 9:39 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Aractus - January 5, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - January 6, 2014 at 7:25 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Aractus - January 7, 2014 at 3:51 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Chas - January 6, 2014 at 8:38 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Esquilax - January 6, 2014 at 12:38 am
RE: Gay marriage - by FlyingNarwhal - January 5, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 5, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by FlyingNarwhal - January 5, 2014 at 1:25 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Minimalist - January 5, 2014 at 7:45 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - January 5, 2014 at 7:49 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by faithinwhat - January 5, 2014 at 9:31 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by NoraBrimstone - January 5, 2014 at 11:59 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - January 6, 2014 at 12:22 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Zen Badger - January 7, 2014 at 5:47 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Belac Enrobso - January 6, 2014 at 1:42 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Zen Badger - January 6, 2014 at 4:56 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - January 6, 2014 at 10:10 am
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 6, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Belac Enrobso - January 6, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - January 7, 2014 at 5:29 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Esquilax - January 7, 2014 at 5:45 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Minimalist - January 23, 2014 at 1:22 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by SteelCurtain - January 23, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Darkstar - January 23, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by rexbeccarox - January 23, 2014 at 4:40 pm

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