The Holodomor: Starvation of more than 6 million Ukrainians by Stalin

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Do I have a source immediately to hand -no but I'm traveling and not near my bookshelves.

Maybe you should have a wee Google, then.

By 'The British' do you mean the then government of Great Britain and Ireland or are you blaming British people generally like some demented Boston Irish American

The then government, obviously. As you said earlier, non-governmental sources made serious attempts to circumvent official government policies through charitable donations. That being said, enmity for the Irish has long been a British (or at least English) trait.

How is the UK government responsible for people pumping out 8 kids on such a tiny patch of land?

I just said that I blame the Church for the overpopulation, not the government. But the British government KNEW what was happening in Ireland and did virtually nothing to alleviate it. It is clear as crystal that what the British did actually exacerbated the problem.

Irelands population was over half that of England and Wales, it was massively over populated because of ridiculous practices of having vastly too many children. That is the ultimate source of the famine. Straightforward overpopulation.

Sorry, I disagree. Apart from the fact that what happened in the late 1840s was NOT a famine, the Penal Laws and British bigotry were the ultimate cause of the famine. Population and the failure of the prattie crop were proximate causes. You seem to want to ignore the fact that the hunger of 1780 was cut short and tens of thousands of lives saved by the simple expedient of NOT exporting food from Ireland. For this, the British government deserves nothing but praise. Sixty years later, things were different.

Boru