(February 28, 2010 at 11:51 am)Darwinian Wrote: But it's not that simple is it?Ah, but it is.


Quote:Let's for the moment assume that Christianity is in fact true.Something tells me you and I have vastly different opinions on what being 'good Christians' means...but go on and explain what you think of as a good Christian.
Now, the only way that we can avoid hell and all it's torment is to accept Christ as our savior and be good Christians.

Quote:This is a system that God has personally put in place. He could have done anything but he didn't, he chose to employ this.Yes. He did choose to make us personally accountable for our own actions. It's not a matter of believing simply in the Christian God, it's a matter of beliving in yourself.
Quote:Now this would be fine if it was obvious that God actually existed and this is what he had in mind for his creation then we could all make an informed decision. But this isn't how it is though is it.Well, to someone who does believe, it's very simply obvious that He exists. There is evidence everywhere, literally everything is evidence in a simple, comprehendable way to that person. It's something too personal for anyone else to call the shots. Even God.
Quote:He chose to hide this from everyone, get rid of any evidence that this is what he wanted. If he so loves us and wants us to make the right decision, why create such an absurd method for us to be saved?He is not hiding, He merely exists on a plain seperate from our own,in a way seperate from physical or bilogical. As I've said in the past, as He is a part of all things, you only understand Him by taking in everything for what it is. He doesn't just love us, He is love. Understand love, you will understand Him.
Quote:I mean this is important stuff, it's the difference between an eternity of paradise and an eternity of torment. And the criteria that God uses to determine this is whether you happen to accept Christ as your savior! What about all those people who are born to families of different religions or those to none? Surely they are at a serious disadvantage? And why, if this is all true, is there absolutely no evidence that Christianity is true or even has an air of verisimilitude about it?It's not to do whether your accept Christ as your savior or not.
Quote:What kind of loving and caring God would create such a strange and unlikely system to determine your ultimate fate?It's pretty simple, actually. Love is simple, and so is Love's system. You are the only one making your decisions, so you are therefore the only one personally accountable for them. Ever heard the terms 'living Hell' or 'Heaven on Earth'?
Quote:Holding yourself accountable for your own actions is one thing but when those actions include not adhering to a particular religion that has no basis in fact or supporting evidence and it's rejection is based simply on logic, common sense, parental conditioning and/or personal choice with no malicious motives whatsoever and the rejection of this particular ideology could lead you to an eternity of torture and torment and it's acceptance the opposite then even you must see how nonsensical it is. And incredibly unfair and irrational!
Again, it has nothing to do with accepting the Christian God as real or Christ as one's savior. It has everything to do with trusting in your own decisions, believing in yourself, believing that there is a connection between you and all of this world, and finding that connection to be God. Notice, I did not say Christian God...God is self-evident.