(January 19, 2014 at 2:12 pm)Drich Wrote: drich's interpretation is simply known as Christianity. I do not know of any Christian who see himself as being bound by all the rules and regulations of OT Judaism.
As such clearly in John 8 Jesus clearly states what we should do about people found in sexual sin concerning stoning. The context is very clear and speaks exactly to this particular situation. You and apparently the gay rock woman don't seem to understand the basics of biblical Christianity.
Great, so you agree with me that political opponents of marriage equality don't have a biblical basis for their beliefs. Gotcha.
Quote:Christ's silence is not permission, as Christ only endorses sex with in the context of a Sanctified marriage. Bottom line there is no context where homosexual marriage has been Sanctified by God In the The new or Old Testament. And, as with any sin outside the confines of a Sanctified marriage, homosexual sex is a sexually based sin just like every other sexually based sin.
I'm not arguing that your bigoted little religion doesn't see homosexuality as a sin; I know that it does. I'm arguing that, as you seem to agree, there's no point in the bible where any of its key speakers ever commands that the way to deal with homosexuals is to prevent them from marrying and to discriminate in a political sense. It's either stone them, or it's nothing.
You say gay marriage hasn't been sanctified by god, and that's fine; I'd also point out that neither has the computer you're writing on. One doesn't need god's permission for every last little thing, because the bible doesn't have everything that ever will be in it. Moreover, even if you do find gay marriage a sin... isn't it you people who always say that god gave us all the free will to sin if we want to?
You bring up John 8, which is great; since you aren't casting first stones, and you have no other verse to back up this kind of discrimination, I guess you're pro-marriage equality, then?

Lek Wrote:Here's what the bible says about homosexual relations in the book of Romans, Chap 1: "In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion." That 's from the NIV version of the new testament. Jesus did announce that we are no longer under the laws of the old testament. That includes stoning practicing homosexuals. But the underlying moral principles are still pertinent. He did command us to love our neighbors. I do love homosexuals. Heck, I even love Democrats.
But you'd agree that there's no point in the bible where it says "thou shalt prevent the gays from marrying," yes? And so there's no biblical basis for doing so today, despite the claims of those that do?
That's the point of the stoning thing, guys: you have exactly one recommended course of action against homosexuals in the bible, so there's no possible way one can refer to it as a justification for moving against them politically.
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