Pat Robertson implores creationist Ken Ham to shut up

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I think it's possible this was a gain. Most often, the only people who take the time to witness these debates are people on the extremes, far from the center. The mainstream appeal of a Bill Nye probably drew in a lot more moderates than these debates usually do, and if we're going to see movement, it's going to come from those moderates, not the extremes.