(February 20, 2014 at 12:44 am)Rahul Wrote: Ok.
Quote:14 Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen.
15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”
19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. 20 Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it.
"Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved"
Then it is immediately followed by "those who believe".
So the qualities of being "saved", "drive out demons", "speak in new tongues", etc. are all traits of those who "believe and is baptized".
More specifically whoever believes and is baptized.
So if only the remaining disciples have these abilities, if god is only meaning to say, "the remaining disciples who believe and are baptized" will have these qualities, then they also only have the quality of being saved as well. Everyone else? Not so much. By your own admission.
And if god really meant the text to say, "Hey, only you remaining disciples, not just whoever" then why does it not plainly say that?
Because it was mistranslated? That warrants a failure in my book. Immediate reason not to trust anything the bible says.
Because it was worded tricky? A god that uses trick questions/statements to determine whether you burn in eternal torment for eternity or paradise? Immediate reason not to trust anything the bible says.
Quote:‘Snake Salvation’ pastor from Kentucky dies from snake bite
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First Published Feb 17 2014 09:40 am • Last Updated Feb 17 2014 09:45 am
GOD: Haha! Tricked you! You should have discussed what I really meant! Sucker!
Is god love? Does he love us? Or does he possess qualities, that if you encountered it in another human, you would immediately denounce them as being a depraved, evil, sick, SOB? Immediate reason not to trust anything the bible says.
Or are you only doing mental gymnastics to make sense of this tripe?
Oh wait, yeah that's what you're doing.
Brilliant rebuttal.
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