RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
February 27, 2014 at 3:21 pm
(This post was last modified: February 27, 2014 at 3:29 pm by Mudhammam.)
(February 27, 2014 at 1:04 pm)Alice Wrote: What if I told you that 'life's answers' are varied such to include religious faith? Something something subjectivity.
I'd say great, show me your evidence or you don't get to go around actively lying to children and striking fear in them, to the point that they grow up and embrace death as if it's an elevator to your religion's fairy tale kingdoms ("up or down, sir?" - that asshole St. Peter).
(February 27, 2014 at 12:33 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:(February 26, 2014 at 8:29 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Exactly. When I was a Christian even the thought of uttering a blasphemy, no matter how insincere, would have made me feel uneasy. But OF COURSE the reason is fear. That's why I offered the challenge, to see which believers here can actually prove their continual insistence that it has nothing to do with fear when it is so obvious to those of us who have made the journey from faith to reason.
A problem with your tactic is that it doesn't account for Christians who won't say Jesus was retarded (etc) out of love and respect, even if they were sure they wouldn't be punished for it. Since there are multiple possible reasons for refusing to say the words, you can't make much in the way of conclusions that fear is the motivation for the refusal.
(February 27, 2014 at 4:30 am)Luckie Wrote: I have crazy wild sex with myself meanwhilst there's pictures hanging on my wall.. does that count?
PS I'd totally do it. The stabbing out and everything. Yeah at first my theist born superstition kicked in but then my logic overrode that.
I'd need a bit more of an incentive to do it. Like ten bucks.
Okay, but to any Christian who wants to be taken seriously, I need more incentive then "if you don't believe God's gon'a have some serious heart burn."
I think the reasonable can all agree that Christianity as a proposition is far more retarded than anything I've suggested here. So in that sense, Christians really shouldn't get too bothered by it.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza