RE: Christians, what is your VERY BEST arguments for the existence of God?
March 26, 2010 at 5:34 pm
(This post was last modified: March 26, 2010 at 5:39 pm by tavarish.)
(March 26, 2010 at 4:27 pm)tackattack Wrote: Firstly,OK ludicrous.. ok I was rolling on that one, thanks
Anytime.
(March 26, 2010 at 4:27 pm)tackattack Wrote: Secondly, Christianity and many other religions have distinguished a moral absolute, tey simply can't prove it's existence to scientific standards, it's called god/gods
You don't have to conform to necessarily scientific standards, name one absolute given by God as moral code that hasn't been contradicted by God himself in some context. Christianity in particular.
(March 26, 2010 at 4:27 pm)tackattack Wrote: Third, I agree being good should not be based off of any stalwart and unchanging dogma, nor should morality. I think religion is a tool to help hone theese things that exist in society. Society has proven agai and again it's avarice, greed, and propensity to harm others, and frankly I think it needs some reeworking.
And how much of that has come about as a result of fear mongering religious types? Religion is a means of control, not of promoting some sort of universal set of ideals. It is self serving and parasitic. It feeds off of people's innate fears and insecurities and instills in them a false sense of security with their own psyche. They convince people that not only are they undeniably unclean from birth, but that the church is the only means of ridding them of this sin.
It is my firm belief that the world would benefit greatly without invasive and bigoted religion, such as those of the Abrahamic variety.
(March 26, 2010 at 4:27 pm)tackattack Wrote: To answer your question nothing. Just as belief in science alone has accomplished nothing. Science has provided many wonderful niceties and weapons. God provided nature and the cycle of life. Belief in something doesn't do anything.
The phrase "God provided nature" isn't even on the same field as the phrase "Science has provided ...".
It's not an unknown process we're referring to. Scientific discovery has, and continues to unlock the secrets of the universe, and this could only happen with an understanding of how science works. Belief in science and its principles has manifested in all of technology, medicine, quality of life, universal origins, and countless more applications. Everything brought to you by science was the result of thousands of individuals spending lifetimes devoted to a particular subject, so mankind as a whole would increase its knowledge, and pass that on to the next generation.
What do we get when we assume God provided for us? What understanding do we gain about the world only when we assume that God did it?
