RE: Christians, what is your VERY BEST arguments for the existence of God?
April 3, 2010 at 6:35 pm
(This post was last modified: April 3, 2010 at 6:37 pm by The_Flying_Skeptic.)
(April 3, 2010 at 4:20 pm)roundsquare Wrote: GENETIC SIMILARITY: TAVARISH, genetic similarity between organisms can be used to support both ID/creation science, so its a tie. also note if there were not strong genetic similarities between us and other organisms we could only eat other humans. for the reason that if every other organism was fundamentally different genetically hence biochemically, there would be no way for us to digest them because their amino acids, sugars etc would be different from the ones in our bodies. ok. here is a link showing how genes r challenging the evolutionary tree of life.
Dang it i cant posts any links until i have 10 posts.
I don't see genetic similarity as a tie. How could the apparent 'fusion' between two chromosomes in the other primates (that differentiates us from them by one chromosome) be considered equally an act of the Christian god and an evolutionary mechanism? I'm referring to microbiologist's, K. Miller's reference to fused chromosomes in the Chimp genome here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk
I see that a creationist organization has already responded to Miller here: http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/sho...hp/id/1392
The article was written by an attorney, Casey Luskin. I'm not trying to say that he has no bearing on the subject because of his profession unrelated to genetics or biology but I would be more impressed if Francis Collins, head of the human genome project and geneticist, wrote this article against the hypothesis, in our case, of fused chromosomes being evidence for our common ancestry with the other primates.
"Claiming that banding pattern similarities is evidence of common ancestry with apes simply invokes the 'similarity = common ancestry' argument, and thus begs the question.) It is entirely possible that our genus Homo underwent a chromosomal fusion event within its own separate history. " - Casey Luskin in the link above
I would like to read Miller's response to this article. My question to Luskin would be: How could chromosomal fusion within a population (at any time) not bring about a new species? Luskin suggests that at some point in the existence of Homo 'genus', there was a fusion that did not create a new species. More reasonably, Miller, if i'm not mistaken, suggests that there was a fusion in a population (of an ancestral species that of the Pan genus and the Homo genus) that created two new species, one which was probably the ancestor or our species. Later Luskin suggests that the fusion could have (no evidence involved) occurred 10,000 years ago in our own species without creating any physiological or morphological changes which doesn't make sense since such a fusion intuitively or logically should produce some change.
Anyhow, i don't see the existence of the appearing fusion (among many other genetic phenomena) to be a point for either side of the debate between particularly Christian creationists and evolutionists (of any religion ... keneth miller and francis collins are both Christians and believers in common descent) because a loving god that wants us to believe in him and believe that we were created at once would not create such a controversial genetic anomaly... not to mention that same god that is supposedly against abortion allowing innocent children be born with genetic fallacies.
