RE: Lets compile a list of everything wrong with christ-insanity
March 15, 2014 at 5:13 pm
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2014 at 5:15 pm by discipulus.)
(March 15, 2014 at 4:09 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(March 15, 2014 at 3:50 pm)discipulus Wrote: That will be for you to decide.
I always know when I've won an exchange with you when you ignore the question and either change the subject or run away to the "well, you and I just see it differently and that is fine" passive-aggressive line of defense.
If you would like to debate me on something that we both can agree on then fine.
As it stands, I do not have the time to go back and forth with you on here.
(March 15, 2014 at 4:53 pm)Bad Writer Wrote:(March 15, 2014 at 3:50 pm)discipulus Wrote: So you say.
So Jesus said. This isn't about me.
discipulus Wrote:In the end if metaphysical naturalism is true, you and I cease to exist when we die.
What the fuck are you on about? 'Metaphysical naturalism'? You can't just string words together and expect us to overlook this blatant oxymoron. Nothing about naturalism is metaphysical, as the idea of naturalism claims that all things have a natural explanation, even those things which at first seem to be supernatural or metaphysical (i.e. currently beyond our comprehension).
The concept of death, as far as we know, has no metaphysical qualities. We observe death all the time, and, quite naturally, the deceased remains dead.
discipulus Wrote:If I am right, and you persist in your obstinate refusal to accept Christ, then you will be eternally separated from God (hell).
IF. Bare assertions aren't worth anyone's time. Why don't you stop living on an "if" statement and start investigating reality for once? Lean upon that which can be observed, and you'll learn that my refusal isn't as obstinate as you once thought it was.
discipulus Wrote:The reality will be far worse than what words in a book can convey, literal fire or not.
And you know this...how? Because Jesus said so? So you agree that his concept of an infinite punishment for so finite a crime is moral? That's it's not reprehensible? How can you justify your god's actions? Are you simply scared that he might be right, that if you so much as turn your back for a moment that he'll forsake you and send you to this eternal torment? Is that what this is all about?
Look, I understand if you're scared of hell. Say that, but don't threaten others with your own perceived hellish imaginings. If you want us to take you seriously, the you need to seriously bring some evidence to the table that 1) your god is real 2) there's a heaven and hell 3) there's such a thing as sin 4) Jesus died for said sins 5) his sacrifice saves souls from going to hell. As you can see, starting with the whole Hellfire and Brimstone routine doesn't faze us because you haven't even fulfilled step 1.
Your comment about metaphysical naturalism was all I needed to read....
Do you even know what metaphysical naturalism is?
