RE: Christians, what is your VERY BEST arguments for the existence of God?
April 5, 2010 at 8:57 am
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2010 at 9:10 am by roundsquare.)
SINGULARITY: this is merely the boundary points of spacetime, that is to say the singularity marks the edges of spacetime. this means that if there is no spacetime you have no singularity. since spacetime came to be, there was a moment when there was no singularity. to use an example, it is meaningless to address the borders of N. America without N. America, because the borders of N. America rely on the existence of N. America. By the same token you cant talk of a spacetime singularity without spacetime. as for the time issue the link you provide seems to be saying that since time began with the singularity, we cant refer to a time before the singularity and as a result all talk of before is meaningless. this shouldnt be a problem for the theist. the link you provide says the singularity happened at t=0. a response has been formulated saying that the cause of the big bang also operated at the same time, at t=0. it didnt have to operate at a time t=0<t, which cant be because there was no prior time. to rephrase the response the cause of the big bang caused the big bang at the same time it happened. you may ask how can a cause and effect be at the same time? even on a mundane level we regularly experience simultaneous causation. to use kants example, a heavy balls resting on a cushion being the cause of the depression in the cushion. here the effect, the depression in the cushion occurs simultaneously with the cause, the ball resting on the cushion. so time poses no problem. we have to look always to causes because the causal principle has never been violated, being cannot come from non-being, somethiog cant come from nothing. the singularity contained all matter, energy, space so before the singularity by definition there was nothing. what may have existed cant be and material, spatial, because matter and space are products if you would of the big bang.
SO ONCE again the KCA withstands petty criticism its premises in tact. 1. everything that has a beginning has a cause. check. 2. the universe began to exist. check. 3. therefore the universe has a cause. check and check.
SO ONCE again the KCA withstands petty criticism its premises in tact. 1. everything that has a beginning has a cause. check. 2. the universe began to exist. check. 3. therefore the universe has a cause. check and check.
SO ONCE again the KCA withstands petty criticism its premises in tact. 1. everything that has a beginning has a cause. check. 2. the universe began to exist. check. 3. therefore the universe has a cause. check and check.
SO ONCE again the KCA withstands petty criticism its premises in tact. 1. everything that has a beginning has a cause. check. 2. the universe began to exist. check. 3. therefore the universe has a cause. check and check.
SO ONCE again the KCA withstands petty criticism its premises in tact. 1. everything that has a beginning has a cause. check. 2. the universe began to exist. check. 3. therefore the universe has a cause. check and check.
SO ONCE again the KCA withstands petty criticism its premises in tact. 1. everything that has a beginning has a cause. check. 2. the universe began to exist. check. 3. therefore the universe has a cause. check and check.
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