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Is Unbelief Possible?
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RE: Is Unbelief Possible?
(March 21, 2014 at 9:04 pm)Hezekiah Wrote: Yea, as illogical as that sounds, I suppose that is close to the route I'm trying to present an argument for. Maybe I should phrase it better this way: If I know something to be true through evidence provided (no matter what it is) that evidence still needs to be understood through my own mind. But how can I trust my own mind when it is faulty, and full of errors? I have to "believe" or "trust" in my own logically ability to think, in order to come to any conclusions, despite knowing that logic makes mistakes.
Do you have reason to think your mind is infallible? No, of course not. That should be the first red flag that arises when people suddenly become experts at interpreting the phenomena they attribute to God (strangely, it is always a deity that they were taught or cultured with...hmmm.).

Is your mind generally reliable? Well, you'd think so, considering that you're still alive and relatively functional to be interacting with all of us. Therefore, the experience of your mind receiving wavelengths of lights and sounds that it then translates into vision and noise, which you then analyze introspectively, should give you at least some basis to form a "belief" or "trust" in your mental faculties, though it's good to question them from time to time and beware that they could all be a computer simulation. There you go. Already you find a distinction between the belief in your functioning mind and the belief in the Christian God--one is based on evidence, your experience of being alive, the other based on faith, what other people have told you and you've apparently accepted without further questioning.

You do realize that the scientific method works precisely because it doesn't depend on one person's claim to truth, yes?
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Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 20, 2014 at 6:50 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 20, 2014 at 6:52 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 21, 2014 at 8:27 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Mudhammam - March 21, 2014 at 11:09 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Tonus - March 20, 2014 at 6:53 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Bob Kelso - March 20, 2014 at 6:54 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Faith No More - March 20, 2014 at 6:56 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Cyberman - March 20, 2014 at 6:59 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by *Deidre* - March 20, 2014 at 6:59 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 20, 2014 at 7:04 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 20, 2014 at 7:02 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Cato - March 20, 2014 at 7:03 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 21, 2014 at 12:19 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by professor - March 20, 2014 at 7:03 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 20, 2014 at 7:04 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 20, 2014 at 7:05 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Mr. Moncrieff - March 20, 2014 at 7:08 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 20, 2014 at 7:13 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by llwynog - March 20, 2014 at 7:19 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Faith No More - March 20, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Tonus - March 20, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by llwynog - March 20, 2014 at 7:11 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 20, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by KichigaiNeko - March 20, 2014 at 7:15 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 20, 2014 at 7:19 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by rossrocks88 - March 20, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 20, 2014 at 7:34 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Cyberman - March 20, 2014 at 7:24 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Anomalocaris - March 20, 2014 at 7:28 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 20, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Anomalocaris - March 20, 2014 at 7:41 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by rexbeccarox - March 20, 2014 at 7:33 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 20, 2014 at 7:37 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Simon Moon - March 20, 2014 at 7:35 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 20, 2014 at 7:40 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by rexbeccarox - March 20, 2014 at 7:38 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by KichigaiNeko - March 20, 2014 at 7:43 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Anomalocaris - March 20, 2014 at 7:45 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by KichigaiNeko - March 20, 2014 at 7:48 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 20, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by rexbeccarox - March 20, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Anomalocaris - March 20, 2014 at 11:41 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 20, 2014 at 11:50 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Mudhammam - March 20, 2014 at 11:50 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Minimalist - March 21, 2014 at 12:34 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 21, 2014 at 12:50 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Cyberman - March 21, 2014 at 12:55 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Minimalist - March 21, 2014 at 12:52 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 21, 2014 at 12:58 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Minimalist - March 21, 2014 at 12:59 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 21, 2014 at 1:02 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 21, 2014 at 1:11 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 21, 2014 at 1:12 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Alex K - March 21, 2014 at 5:21 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Cyberman - March 21, 2014 at 1:02 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 21, 2014 at 1:13 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Whateverist - March 21, 2014 at 1:29 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 21, 2014 at 1:32 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by rexbeccarox - March 21, 2014 at 1:35 am
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RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 21, 2014 at 4:37 am
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RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by ThePinsir - March 21, 2014 at 9:12 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Mister Agenda - March 21, 2014 at 11:13 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 21, 2014 at 9:04 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Mudhammam - March 22, 2014 at 1:47 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Esquilax - March 22, 2014 at 2:05 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 22, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 22, 2014 at 12:54 pm
Is Unbelief Possible? - by Rampant.A.I. - March 21, 2014 at 11:50 am
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RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 7:58 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by psychoslice - March 22, 2014 at 5:31 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 12:55 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 22, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 22, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 22, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 22, 2014 at 1:17 pm
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RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 22, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 22, 2014 at 1:22 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 1:25 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 22, 2014 at 1:29 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 1:32 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 22, 2014 at 1:32 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 1:33 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 22, 2014 at 1:33 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 1:33 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 22, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 1:37 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 22, 2014 at 1:42 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 1:43 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 22, 2014 at 1:45 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 22, 2014 at 1:48 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 22, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 22, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 22, 2014 at 1:55 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 22, 2014 at 1:53 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by downbeatplumb - March 22, 2014 at 1:55 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 5:34 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by psychoslice - March 22, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 5:53 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by psychoslice - March 22, 2014 at 7:26 pm
Is Unbelief Possible? - by Rampant.A.I. - March 22, 2014 at 5:53 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 7:27 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by psychoslice - March 22, 2014 at 8:19 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 8:33 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by psychoslice - March 22, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by psychoslice - March 22, 2014 at 8:39 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 9:02 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by psychoslice - March 22, 2014 at 9:39 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Zen Badger - March 22, 2014 at 9:18 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 9:40 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by psychoslice - March 22, 2014 at 9:45 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 9:46 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by psychoslice - March 22, 2014 at 9:49 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by psychoslice - March 22, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 10:21 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by psychoslice - March 22, 2014 at 10:29 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 10:32 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by psychoslice - March 22, 2014 at 10:34 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 23, 2014 at 3:35 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Mudhammam - March 22, 2014 at 10:42 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by tor - March 22, 2014 at 10:35 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by psychoslice - March 22, 2014 at 10:38 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by psychoslice - March 22, 2014 at 10:46 pm
Is Unbelief Possible? - by Rampant.A.I. - March 22, 2014 at 10:57 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 23, 2014 at 7:12 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Esquilax - March 23, 2014 at 8:54 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 23, 2014 at 10:59 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 23, 2014 at 9:52 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Esquilax - March 23, 2014 at 10:37 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by SteelCurtain - March 23, 2014 at 10:16 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 23, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by SteelCurtain - March 23, 2014 at 10:54 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 23, 2014 at 11:48 am
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Hezekiah - March 23, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: Is Unbelief Possible? - by Belev2Know - March 23, 2014 at 1:41 pm

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