RE: Best arguments for and against god you know of?
March 24, 2014 at 12:24 pm
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2014 at 12:27 pm by Fidel_Castronaut.)
The issue is most certainly on the definition. I've spoken to people who, like Morgan stipulates, view god as everything, where everything constitutes god in order to make them make sense of the world they live in (god is the weather, god is the sun, god is the air I breath etc) rather than a tangible, physical entity as described in the Abrahamic religions.
Of course one could argue that's more an existentialist response to the world we live in as opposed to one with any sort of definitive proof.
Arguably I think the above is more concrete albeit equally absurd as the tangible god hypothesis. I mean, rain exists after all, and we can prove it. There was a poster on another Atheist forum I frequent who revealed that she worshipped 'nature' like it was a god. But rather than just be a tree-hugging sort of worshipper, she actually believed it was a sort of sentient being/organism/entity/essence. Again, impossible to prove without proof, but it has the tangible element to which an Abrahamic god does not (or at least used to according to the Torah, but now does not for some reason).
As always, Ben lays it down the way I see it:
Of course one could argue that's more an existentialist response to the world we live in as opposed to one with any sort of definitive proof.
Arguably I think the above is more concrete albeit equally absurd as the tangible god hypothesis. I mean, rain exists after all, and we can prove it. There was a poster on another Atheist forum I frequent who revealed that she worshipped 'nature' like it was a god. But rather than just be a tree-hugging sort of worshipper, she actually believed it was a sort of sentient being/organism/entity/essence. Again, impossible to prove without proof, but it has the tangible element to which an Abrahamic god does not (or at least used to according to the Torah, but now does not for some reason).
As always, Ben lays it down the way I see it:
(March 24, 2014 at 8:24 am)Ben Davis Wrote: For: "I sez they duz so they duz"
Against: Theistic gods, as defined, cannot possibly exist. Deistic gods, as defined, might as well not exist.