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WLC free will and omniscience
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RE: WLC free will and omniscience
(April 1, 2014 at 4:57 pm)tor Wrote:
Quote:Not free from Gods POV. Why are you not free from your POV? You're conflating two different perspectives making your summary fallacious.
That's the point.
In your world god is gonna judge me. Yet from his point of view I'm not free. So how can HE judge me if I'm not free from where he's sitting?
Btw the fact that he is omniscient AND omnipotent means he could prevent every evil that ever happened cause he knew everything that will happen and knew how to prevent it. Which brings us back to epicurian paradox.

God judges you on what you did, the same as he judges everyone. You made your choices and you're judged for them. He didn't make any choices for you.

You're failing badly at seeing the logic here.

From Gods POV, you are free. He sees your entire timeline from anywhere he wants, from the beginning, the end, at any moment or all at once... that's what omniscience grants. He knows all that you did and are going to do, and all the choices that you make.

You as a time bound being are trapped by your physiology and influences. You are free to act as your conditioning dictates. Whatever words come into your mind, that then find themselves typed, you were free to form.

The epicurean paradox is meaningless psychobabble.
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WLC free will and omniscience - by tor - March 31, 2014 at 8:45 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by professor - March 31, 2014 at 8:56 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by ShaMan - March 31, 2014 at 9:00 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Ryantology - March 31, 2014 at 9:13 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by popeyespappy - March 31, 2014 at 9:06 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by professor - March 31, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by ShaMan - March 31, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by professor - March 31, 2014 at 9:17 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by ShaMan - March 31, 2014 at 9:20 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Ryantology - March 31, 2014 at 11:05 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by RobbyPants - April 4, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by professor - March 31, 2014 at 9:27 pm
WLC free will and omniscience - by Rampant.A.I. - March 31, 2014 at 10:39 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2014 at 2:27 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by tor - April 1, 2014 at 7:50 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by MindForgedManacle - April 4, 2014 at 12:17 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 4, 2014 at 8:02 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Tonus - April 7, 2014 at 9:36 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Angrboda - April 3, 2014 at 1:14 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by archangle - April 1, 2014 at 8:40 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Tonus - April 1, 2014 at 9:07 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by FreeTony - April 1, 2014 at 9:21 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by tor - April 1, 2014 at 9:25 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Ryantology - April 1, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by tor - April 1, 2014 at 4:57 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by truthBtold - April 1, 2014 at 5:44 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Ryantology - April 1, 2014 at 5:58 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by tor - April 1, 2014 at 6:10 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2014 at 7:48 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by truthBtold - April 1, 2014 at 6:51 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by tor - April 1, 2014 at 8:24 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2014 at 8:29 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by tor - April 1, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Tonus - April 2, 2014 at 9:18 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Rayaan - April 1, 2014 at 10:16 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by truthBtold - April 1, 2014 at 7:52 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2014 at 8:57 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by professor - April 1, 2014 at 8:58 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by truthBtold - April 1, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by professor - April 1, 2014 at 9:38 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by truthBtold - April 1, 2014 at 9:42 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Whateverist - April 4, 2014 at 11:34 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Upside Down Dog - April 3, 2014 at 10:55 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2014 at 12:21 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Upside Down Dog - April 3, 2014 at 12:58 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2014 at 2:20 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Jackalope - April 3, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Neo-Scholastic - April 3, 2014 at 11:10 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Upside Down Dog - April 3, 2014 at 11:12 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Neo-Scholastic - April 3, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Silver - April 3, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2014 at 12:50 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Neo-Scholastic - April 3, 2014 at 6:36 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by ShaMan - April 3, 2014 at 2:26 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by tor - April 3, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2014 at 7:46 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Neo-Scholastic - April 4, 2014 at 11:03 am
WLC free will and omniscience - by Rampant.A.I. - April 4, 2014 at 12:01 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Tonus - April 4, 2014 at 12:22 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 5, 2014 at 8:57 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 5, 2014 at 6:54 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by coldwx - April 5, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by truthBtold - April 5, 2014 at 3:56 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2014 at 4:48 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by MindForgedManacle - April 6, 2014 at 10:06 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by archangle - April 6, 2014 at 7:52 pm
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 7, 2014 at 10:07 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by Tonus - April 7, 2014 at 10:16 am
RE: WLC free will and omniscience - by fr0d0 - April 7, 2014 at 10:37 am

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