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Faith Vs Knowledge
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RE: Faith Vs Knowledge
(April 5, 2014 at 2:04 am)Alex K Wrote: Stating the consequences does not make Gods actions ok. And no they were nit equipped to make a judgement and be held accountable for it.
To which actions of God's are you referring?
In what way(s) are you proposing Adam and Eve were not equipped to make a judgement?

(April 5, 2014 at 6:25 am)max-greece Wrote: Worry not about how I take your comments. Fire away - I don't see contradiction so I must have missed it.
10-4. The argument again:
Quote:Premise 1: Faith in God produces knowledge of God's existence.
Premise 2: Some people have faith in God but without knowledge of God's existence.
Premise 3: If God doesn't exist, then there is no knowledge of God's existence.
Conclusion: If God does exist, knowledge of His existence could only be had if God is not consistent.

Premise 1 states that faith in God produces knowledge of God's existence. Premise 2 states that some people have faith in God but do not have knowledge of God's existence. If faith in God produces knowledge of God's existence than people cannot have faith in God without knowledge of God's existence.

We know that an argument is valid only when a true conclusion is inferred from true premises and there are no instances where the premises can be true and the conclusion false. There is no instance with which your first premise and second premise can be true at the same time, because premise two is a negation of premise one. So if we were to assume premise 1 is true then it's negation (premise 2) would be false and vice versa. If there is no instance with which all your premises are true you cannot logically infer any conclusion.

If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?



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Faith Vs Knowledge - by max-greece - April 1, 2014 at 5:26 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Esquilax - April 1, 2014 at 5:36 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Little Rik - April 1, 2014 at 5:49 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by archangle - April 1, 2014 at 11:51 am
Faith Vs Knowledge - by Rampant.A.I. - April 1, 2014 at 12:09 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Tonus - April 1, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Minimalist - April 1, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Anomalocaris - April 8, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Napoléon - April 1, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by fr0d0 - April 1, 2014 at 1:14 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Chas - April 3, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2014 at 4:01 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Chas - April 3, 2014 at 4:05 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by archangle - April 3, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Chas - April 3, 2014 at 6:18 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Paraselene - April 1, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by YahwehIsTheWay - April 1, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by orangebox21 - April 1, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by max-greece - April 1, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Paraselene - April 1, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by max-greece - April 1, 2014 at 1:54 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Paraselene - April 1, 2014 at 1:57 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by orangebox21 - April 2, 2014 at 1:19 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by MJ the Skeptical - April 4, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by ShaMan - April 1, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by truthBtold - April 1, 2014 at 7:35 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by max-greece - April 2, 2014 at 3:20 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by archangle - April 2, 2014 at 11:13 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Severan - April 2, 2014 at 11:30 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by archangle - April 3, 2014 at 7:52 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by max-greece - April 3, 2014 at 8:15 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by archangle - April 3, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by fr0d0 - April 3, 2014 at 6:05 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by archangle - April 3, 2014 at 6:47 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by professor - April 3, 2014 at 7:00 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by ShaMan - April 3, 2014 at 7:15 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Tonus - April 4, 2014 at 12:32 pm
Faith Vs Knowledge - by Rampant.A.I. - April 3, 2014 at 7:02 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by professor - April 3, 2014 at 8:17 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Chas - April 3, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by ShaMan - April 3, 2014 at 8:56 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by professor - April 3, 2014 at 9:04 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by ShaMan - April 3, 2014 at 9:06 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by orangebox21 - April 3, 2014 at 11:05 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by max-greece - April 4, 2014 at 12:44 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by professor - April 4, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Alex K - April 4, 2014 at 6:51 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by truthBtold - April 4, 2014 at 6:59 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by MJ the Skeptical - April 4, 2014 at 7:20 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by professor - April 4, 2014 at 7:28 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Tonus - April 8, 2014 at 9:43 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by orangebox21 - April 5, 2014 at 1:58 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by archangle - April 9, 2014 at 9:29 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Alex K - April 5, 2014 at 2:04 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by Clueless Morgan - April 8, 2014 at 10:35 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by max-greece - April 5, 2014 at 6:25 am
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by orangebox21 - April 5, 2014 at 4:58 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by professor - April 8, 2014 at 5:33 pm
RE: Faith Vs Knowledge - by orangebox21 - April 9, 2014 at 1:26 pm

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