RE: WLC free will and omniscience
April 6, 2014 at 4:48 am
(This post was last modified: April 6, 2014 at 4:48 am by fr0d0.)
Still total nonsense MF.
1. I don't "accept" that God is timeless, I err on that explanation. Please try to be accurate.
2. Yes you are absolutely trying to conflate two very different states and coming up with the wrong answer.
God created this world and is atemporal. He is not separated from it as we (temporal creatures) are separated from the atemporal realm. He manages this realm 'from' his.
You're saying that because he knows it, that must make a difference to us... which is bullshit. It absolutely doesn't. I don't know if this is strict determinism, but if it is, it's abject nonsense.
4. You said my position was that God exists. I make no such claim. Again, accuracy needed.
Free agency exists because outside of time the future can be known (no need to call that 'God'). That has no bearing WITHIN a temporal realm.
If we all knew the future, then determinism would be true. If we don't, then determinism is the bullshit it smells like.
1. I don't "accept" that God is timeless, I err on that explanation. Please try to be accurate.
2. Yes you are absolutely trying to conflate two very different states and coming up with the wrong answer.
God created this world and is atemporal. He is not separated from it as we (temporal creatures) are separated from the atemporal realm. He manages this realm 'from' his.
You're saying that because he knows it, that must make a difference to us... which is bullshit. It absolutely doesn't. I don't know if this is strict determinism, but if it is, it's abject nonsense.
4. You said my position was that God exists. I make no such claim. Again, accuracy needed.
Free agency exists because outside of time the future can be known (no need to call that 'God'). That has no bearing WITHIN a temporal realm.
If we all knew the future, then determinism would be true. If we don't, then determinism is the bullshit it smells like.