(April 6, 2014 at 11:46 am)whateverist Wrote: The question is meaningless, or at least a semantic one, because it all hinges on what we mean by "nothing". First air turned out not to be nothing, then empty space itself turns out not to be nothing and even if there was a time when there was a god but neither space nor matter .. that too would not be nothing. If we're to worry about the transition from nothing to something, god doesn't get a pass. Then again, why do we think there would ever have been a true nothing? What leads anyone to suppose that?
Personally I don't accept that there was ever a true nothing. Before the earliest phenomenon we could ever come to theorize, there would always have been the preconditions necessary to give rise to it. Looks like pre-existing conditions all the way down to me.
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Science is not a subject, but a method.
