(April 8, 2014 at 7:01 am)alpha male Wrote: Er, I'd say that the theist argument is that something can't naturally come from nothing, but we assume that the naturally is understood.
But then how do you explain where god came from? Saying god always existed begs the question: why can't the universe and its prior conditions have always existed and cut out the middle man (god)? Positing a creator god just seems gratuitous and completely unhelpful in explaining anything.
Saying god did it is tantamount to saying you just don't know how a thing came about. Don't you xtians have a saying about god "working in strange and wonderful ways"? I still use the expression "gawd only knows" to indicate that the answer to a question eludes me. But I don't seriously mean that there is a genie somewhere who actually keeps track of all the answers to all the questions. That is just a weird idea.
