(April 21, 2014 at 1:05 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Talking about God being so extraordinarily out of probability doesn't seem to make sense to me, when life is like that as well.Perhaps. But the god(s) that humans mostly worship today are supposed to reflect certain qualities that shine through in their handiwork. A magnificent waterfall, or the complex interactions of a hive of honeybees, or the feeling of the sun on your skin on a warm day might make you think there's someone behind those extraordinary things. Rev777 chalks it up to a particular god, for example.
But then we look at the other side of it, and are we left with that same sense of awe? A boa crushing a rabbit to death in its coils? A hawk tearing open a mouse's abdomen with a practiced twitch of it's razor sharp beak? Smallpox? All of these can be amazing in their own way, though they might not cause us a warm and fuzzy sensation (more of a chill deep in the pit of our stomach). Rev777 will probably chalk those things up to something else, of course, without recognizing how it undermines his belief that it's all part of god's grand design.
I think the universe and our biosphere really are amazing. I think that part of that amazement is just our own limited understanding of how things work. I also think it's very selective at times.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould