(April 24, 2014 at 8:59 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(April 24, 2014 at 6:35 pm)Lek Wrote: The problem is that if someone brings up something like the writings of Josephus, someone will say that they were tampered with or some such thing.
Mainly because they were. If that's a problem, maybe the question needs to be addressed as to why Josephus is brought up as evidence at all. Why the need for them to be tampered with in the first place, if there was contemporary evidence for the JC character?
Actually - it really makes no difference if the writings were tampered with or not - - Josephus could not have been an eye witness to the christ myth if it had lived - Josephus was born AFTER the claimed death. At most - he could pass on hearsay from believers - but that only proves that the story existed - not that the christ was real.
Xians constantly use statements and documents of dubious value to support their claim of a "christ" because there is NO mention of the christ in the historical record of its supposed time -
However - the response from us should be - we Expect the same level of PROOF of existence that YOU would require to prove you wrong - and another god correct. And there is NONE at all.
