(May 2, 2014 at 10:25 pm)ns1452 Wrote: The problem with your article and your comment is what is beauty, courage, right, wrong, good, and evil apart from God? If your paradigm is that all experience is simply chemical reactions than in your system these concepts don't exist. People are simply responding to stimuli. That is not a concept of beauty. These concepts only having meaning in world that has more meaning than simply chemical neurological reactions. Therefore, your article has little merit because it asserts philosophical ideas that has no basis within your paradigms. Arguably, these ideas have been borrowed from a theist world view. This is why I have not dealt with your article.
You really need to let go of this idea that if something conceptual isn't also magic, it's therefore worthless. Concepts don't have any inherent existence beyond the minds that consider them, and that's okay, because those minds do exist. If they didn't, then courage and beauty and all that would disappear, but that doesn't render those concepts nonexistent: as the old adage goes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That's very true, here.
Besides, your claim that these things would be worthless apart from god is completely nonsensical, because you haven't at all determined how god sustains those concepts. You might as well have asked what is cheese apart from pizza? Cheese can go on a pizza, but that doesn't mean that it ceases to exist if it isn't on one. You attach all these labels to god, and then mistakenly believe that they come from him, and that he owns them, but without some kind of establishing evidence that this is true, we don't really need to play your game.
Stop assuming christianity gets to dictate all the rules of debate.
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