RE: What if the Romans hadn't killed Jesus?
May 5, 2014 at 8:23 pm
(This post was last modified: May 5, 2014 at 8:36 pm by Lek.)
(May 5, 2014 at 7:38 pm)ThomM Wrote:had to be his genetic father.(May 5, 2014 at 6:42 pm)Lek Wrote: You're right, even many christians don't claim to know indisputably who the authors were and what the dates of writing are. At the same time, all your comments don't prove the dates of writing or authorship either. There's huge numbers of people on both sides with agendas to prove or disprove christianity. When I study the scriptures, written by different authors over 1,500 years and see their continuity and integrity, I choose to accept them as the word of God. That, combined with my lifetime experience and the testimony of others, supports my acceptance of christianity.
Quote:Sop = what YOU are saying is that YOU accept the gods that are written in the bible - ALL OF THEM - since YOU say they have integrity
SO YOU accept these gods
No, just the God which the bible claims to be the true god.
Quote:The problem is - most xtians - have not actually read the bible
I have - from cover to cover - a number of times
Sadly, most christians have not read the whole bible, but fortunately that's not a requirement for salvation.
Quote:ANd the problem is - when xtians like you cherry pick the parts you want to beleive - - WE know that there are contradictions - errors - and MYTH and LEGEND in the bible without question.Not without question. That's some peoples opinion and not others. I also don't cherry pick.
Quote:Of course - the biggest question is - according to the bible - the Messiah will unite ALL of the world under one religion (Judaism) and have all others admit that their belief was false ( As it says: "God will be King over all the world—on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).Yes. And it will happen.
Quote:The Messiah must be descended on his father’s side from King David (see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1). A person without a human father cannot fulfill that one eitherJoseph was his father. It doesn't say he
Quote:And the claim of a NEW COVENANT - replacing the old - admit that the god LIES. If the god was ALL knowing - past -present and future - then it would have KNOWN when it made the first Covenant with man - that is was NOT going to live up to it - so the word of the god is worthless since it lies - IN THE BIBLE.He did know that man was not going to live up to it. Part of the purpose of the covenant was to demonstrate that fact. We know that we must rely on him to be saved.
Quote:If we use the entire bible as a source - the bible itself proves itself false.We'll all decide that for ourselves.